Are there any feminists in this forum ??

My wife and I work together and have for years.
I am all for female equality.
Just be careful you don't make any advances I see a sexual harrassment suit....
gods gender? lol..... *rolls eyes*
We've discussed this before, G!d doesn't care whether you use the words she, he or it...just don't blur them all together...

My fav is that shirt that says "My eyes are up here stupid!" Well the words are written across your breasts my dear...

Another one...'juicy' written on the backside of shorts on a 14 year old girl....really?? Does she have parents? My daughter is pissed I don't allow her to have any shorts with something written on the backside.

Now I'm not a prude, nor a letch, spent years on nude beaches with my wife or girlfriends or just friends... it just hasn't made me go blind...

I wouldn't say I'm a feminist....to me that implys some form of activism. I am completely in favor of parity (and parody), equal rights, etc. including pregnancy leave.

Of course I'd like to have as many breaks as the smokers get too...and as many days off for 'marketing' as the golfers get...

note: just a little pissed I didn't get flamed or splashed for my comments...they must have all been spot on and acceptable....phooey.
 
a supreme being wouldn't be of any gender.... To suggest that it was one would suggest there are more than one... Gender is for breeding creatures..... To call it a he or she is just as silly as believing there is something up there heh.
 
My fav is that shirt that says "My eyes are up here stupid!" Well the words are written across your breasts my dear...

Another good example is Serena Williams, who after winning Wimbledon this year sported a t-shirt at her press conference that said, "Are you staring at my titles?"

I thought it was a very poor choice, to shift attention away from her athletic achievement to her physical attributes. But I think this is one of those things that gets filed under "generation gap"... something the old folk will never understand.

If the kids aren't shocking you, then they aren't doing their job. It's good to see the youth of today is up to the task of leaving their elders slack-jawed, just as we surely did in our day.
 
I think the current pc term is intersexed, therefore it would be more pc to say that God is intersexed or at the very least bi-sexual.
 
Sometimes I feel old enough to be a first waver..:D however, after reviewing the history of feminism, I started out as a Liberal Feminist but in my old age, I have become a Libertarian Feminist with a Christian Feminist theological streak. I know that I tend to be a paradoxical oxymoron.

For more see: Feminism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and Wendy McElroy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

WendyMcElroy.com: Capitalism versus the free market

My life choices seem like they are more traditional because I am a strong supporter of family; however one chooses to do that. I have never been a radical because I see change happening from within not from tearing down. Intellectually, being a radical is appealing but I don't like extremism.

I like McElroy's distinction between capitalism and free market:

"Another factor made me draw a line between my personal embrace of laissez-faire capitalism and my public advocacy of the free market. We live near a Mennonite community that functions along communal, almost socialistic lines. It functions well, it prospers, members can leave at any time, the members are good neighbors to all. In a free market, their choice to be communal is as valid as my choice to function within the capitalistic sectors of society. We are all free to make whatever voluntary exchanges fit our needs, beliefs, personalities, etc. That's what I want for society: not necessarily a capitalistic arrangement but a free market system in which everyone can make the peaceful choices they wish with their own bodies and labor."
 
:D:D yes breasts are sexualised; if we were all still bare naked then l'm sure attitudes would be different and it would be oh so normal. Unfortunately most of the low cut crew do want admiration from the opposite sex but there are the rare ones who do it for themselves and couldn't give a fig about what others think...60's burn yer bra and all that jazz [it feels good]. Personally l defy anyone not brought up in the 70's who has a modicum of IQ not to be feminist to some degree...it stands to reason no less and though one of our british labour politicians is being slagged off for pushing for more females in power positions as a self promoting stunt l personally applaud her as there needs to be more parity yingyang tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree:)

I'd love to see women dominate the political scene. In my walk through life it seems to me the best run households always have a woman at the helm. If "ordinary" women like them were running the show we might not be trillions in the red all the time.
 
You think Thatcher was a man then? :rolleyes:

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There was a very good reason I used the words "ordinary women". I do not know what Thatcher was/is. And I mean that, words fail me to describe her as even human. Perhaps I am wrong, maybe better the devil we know. But I have known many women who are unsung management geniuses.
 
I think the current pc term is intersexed, therefore it would be more pc to say that God is intersexed or at the very least bi-sexual.

I can't imagine God being sexual at all, because then it means he/she/it has had sex with someone before and I can't imagine God having sex with anyone. I have always thought of him/her/it as a virgin.

This is where things start to get a little complicated. If God can have sex and God can be a virgin then the same rules that have been used/applied on humans could also be applied to God.

God could get married or have sex before marriage. I wonder if God has a good sex life? Does God have a good marriage? Is God promiscuous in heaven? How did God create Adam, Eve and so many angels? Does God cheat? Is God polygamous?

Imagine, ET, Entertainment Tonight covering a story about God getting a divorce or God having prostate or breast cancer.

If God was a woman, I would be dazzled. If God was a man, I would either be jealous, or I would ask him to go and have a drink with me in the pub. I would play chess against God, sue God and take God to court. I would also wonder about God's fertility. Is God virile? Does God need Viagra? If I get into a fight with God, who wins?

Does God have a university degree? Bachelor of God? Masters in God? PhD in God? Mr. God, Dr. God, Professor God?

Does God have rights? Does God have money, wealth, property, an education? When did God go to school?
 
Don't go horseback riding bra-less. {Ouch! :eek:} (Lady Godiva did it for a good cause, so she can be excused.)
godiva-collier.jpg



yeh maybe one would have to lay on the back of it on your stomach or tie some yellow ribbons round the wobbly bits!
godiva-collier.jpg
 
yeh maybe one would have to lay on the back of it on your stomach or tie some yellow ribbons round the wobbly bits!
godiva-collier.jpg

You Brits have always been leaders in modern dress !! :D

Now the real feminist stuff is finally coming out !!!

Another thing that is funny to me is that, that Collier painting is a classic, but in the current context it also looks like it could be a Photoshop of a beautiful woman cut and pasted on the back of the horse :)
 
yeh maybe one would have to lay on the back of it on your stomach or tie some yellow ribbons round the wobbly bits!
godiva-collier.jpg

Here is a portion of the wiki on Lady G.:

Historically, certain college organisations staged an annual "Godiva Ride" in which a naked female (or a costumed male) rode a horse across campus.[20] This practice may have declined with the advent of modern feminist attitudes.[21]
Lady Godiva - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So the only thing about Lady G. pertinent to feminism is that the practice of nude riding at colleges has declined due to feminism.

But after reading about why she took the ride, I tend to believe that her reasons were very much feminist. She was trying to help the towns people who were being overtaxed by her husband.

Of course the modern feminist would just tell her husband, stop the taxing or you will sleep in the den !! Right ?? :D
 
Here is another interesting observation:

In Britain the Suffragettes and, possibly more effectively, the Suffragists campaigned for the women's vote. In 1918 the Representation of the People Act 1918 was passed granting the vote to women over the age of 30 who owned houses.

American first-wave feminism is considered to have ended with the passage of the Nineteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (1919), granting women the right to vote in all states.

Isn't it wonderful to see what leaders we are here in the US ??:D
 
Isn't it wonderful to see what leaders we are here in the US ??:D

Bearing in mind it was the abolition of slavery that brought to the fore and accenuated the inequality of the female sex in the first place, and the isle of man and new zealand were years before the big guns put the vote in place; ironically France's revolution, which spearheaded feminism, did not enable the women's vote till 1945! showing how slow the machinations of government works.

wiki
'In the eighteenth century, the French Revolution focussed people's attention everywhere on the cry for "égalité", and hence by extension, but in a more limited way, inequity in the treatment of women. In 1791, the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen elicited an immediate response from the writer Olympe de Gouges who amended it as the Declaration of the Rights of Woman and the Female Citizen, arguing that if women were accountable to the law they must also be given equal responsibility under the law. She also addressed marriage as a social contract between equals and attacked women's reliance on beauty and charm, as a form of slavery.[135]'.

So, yes it's great that it's only a generation between the civil rights movement and the inauguration of a coloured US president,for instance, showing a more speeding up of reforms, but l think that theres still much inequality around that tends to be swept under the carpet even within the so called advanced countries, let alone the condition of women elsewhere and until there is total parity the world is still in darkness methinks.
 
Bearing in mind it was the abolition of slavery that brought to the fore and accenuated the inequality of the female sex in the first place, and the isle of man and new zealand were years before the big guns put the vote in place; ironically France's revolution, which spearheaded feminism, did not enable the women's vote till 1945! showing how slow the machinations of government works.

wiki
'In the eighteenth century, the French Revolution focussed people's attention everywhere on the cry for "égalité", and hence by extension, but in a more limited way, inequity in the treatment of women. In 1791, the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen elicited an immediate response from the writer Olympe de Gouges who amended it as the Declaration of the Rights of Woman and the Female Citizen, arguing that if women were accountable to the law they must also be given equal responsibility under the law. She also addressed marriage as a social contract between equals and attacked women's reliance on beauty and charm, as a form of slavery.[135]'.

So, yes it's great that it's only a generation between the civil rights movement and the inauguration of a coloured US president,for instance, showing a more speeding up of reforms, but l think that theres still much inequality around that tends to be swept under the carpet even within the so called advanced countries, let alone the condition of women elsewhere and until there is total parity the world is still in darkness methinks.
I would have to agree with you there. The old laws where animals were legally treated as property, which were then extended to women (as property,) still have a great influence on legal and cultural thinking today. It's probably going to be much more difficult to change this than overcoming racial prejudice has been. It's that deeply ingrained, imo.
 
Bearing in mind it was the abolition of slavery that brought to the fore and accenuated the inequality of the female sex in the first place, and the isle of man and new zealand were years before the big guns put the vote in place; ironically France's revolution, which spearheaded feminism, did not enable the women's vote till 1945! showing how slow the machinations of government works.

wiki
'In the eighteenth century, the French Revolution focussed people's attention everywhere on the cry for "égalité", and hence by extension, but in a more limited way, inequity in the treatment of women. In 1791, the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen elicited an immediate response from the writer Olympe de Gouges who amended it as the Declaration of the Rights of Woman and the Female Citizen, arguing that if women were accountable to the law they must also be given equal responsibility under the law. She also addressed marriage as a social contract between equals and attacked women's reliance on beauty and charm, as a form of slavery .[135]'.

So, yes it's great that it's only a generation between the civil rights movement and the inauguration of a coloured US president,for instance, showing a more speeding up of reforms, but l think that theres still much inequality around that tends to be swept under the carpet even within the so called advanced countries, let alone the condition of women elsewhere and until there is total parity the world is still in darkness methinks.

I so agree with this. Thumbs/rep up! If one looks at what is fed to the public just in the advertising/media world of dieting to death; glamour; eye candy, etc. I don't see how we have progressed at all. Also, not to mention the grip that Christian (and other religions) subordination theology has on a huge population of the world. see:

Overcoming Women's Subordination in the Igbo African Culture and in the Catholic Church: Envisioning eBook

Somewhere in the inner recesses of the male culture, a transformation has to occur, where women are valued and not viewed as property to be used and abused. I am not pointing fingers or blaming any specific males; but we are talking about a deep seeded and sometimes denied cultural influence.

I may not agree with everything that Christians For Biblical Equality teaches; but this organization is doing good work within the conservative evangelical world of bringing the message of mutuality. See:

Our Mission and History | Christians for Biblical Equality (CBE)
 
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