Another view of the holocaust

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ANOTHER VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUST

According to Numbers 13 and 14, when the Israelites had arrived at the borders of Canaan, Moses sent a platoon of twelve men to reconnoiter the land before taking possession of it. The report fed back by ten of the spies, after 40 days of reconnotering the land of Canaan, was of such a negative fashion that the whole community cried with threats even to return to Egypt, rather to face the difficulties to have to deal with the hostilities of the natives. (Num. 14:5)

Moses had realized that the People were not ready to enter the Promised Land. So, they became doomed to wander for 40 years in the wilderness till the last one who had left Egypt had died, except for Joshua and Caleb, who had tried to persuade the Community that their fear was rootless.(Num. 14:6-10)

In 1895, our modern Messianic leader Theodor Herzl rose to proclaim to the Jewish People in Europe of the approaching end of the exile, which, IMHO, happened at the end of WW1. His efforts were in vain, as he was discarded just as Moses was 3,450 years before. The People were again not ready to return. They were deluded by their own illusion that, after 1,000 years in Germany, nothing would happen to convince them to replace their comfort of life and return to the strugggles to rebuild themselves from scratch in such a hostile place as was then the Land of Israel by natural and artificial means.

Yes, the People were not ready, and they had no scruples to show it by their willful disgusting attitude at the message and messenger. Then, what, for the Israelites took 40 years to finish with all those who had left Egypt, it took about the same time to finish with six million of them to make the remnant ready to return to the Promised Land. That's one reason for the Holocaust of almost 70 years ago. Had they listened to Herzl, we would be today the triple of what we are.
Ben
 
ANOTHER VIEW OF THE HOLOCAUST

According to Numbers 13 and 14, when the Israelites had arrived at the borders of Canaan, Moses sent a platoon of twelve men to reconnoiter the land before taking possession of it. The report fed back by ten of the spies, after 40 days of reconnotering the land of Canaan, was of such a negative fashion that the whole community cried with threats even to return to Egypt, rather to face the difficulties to have to deal with the hostilities of the natives. (Num. 14:5)

Moses had realized that the People were not ready to enter the Promised Land. So, they became doomed to wander for 40 years in the wilderness till the last one who had left Egypt had died, except for Joshua and Caleb, who had tried to persuade the Community that their fear was rootless.(Num. 14:6-10)

In 1895, our modern Messianic leader Theodor Herzl rose to proclaim to the Jewish People in Europe of the approaching end of the exile, which, IMHO, happened at the end of WW1. His efforts were in vain, as he was discarded just as Moses was 3,450 years before. The People were again not ready to return. They were deluded by their own illusion that, after 1,000 years in Germany, nothing would happen to convince them to replace their comfort of life and return to the strugggles to rebuild themselves from scratch in such a hostile place as was then the Land of Israel by natural and artificial means.

Yes, the People were not ready, and they had no scruples to show it by their willful disgusting attitude at the message and messenger. Then, what, for the Israelites took 40 years to finish with all those who had left Egypt, it took about the same time to finish with six million of them to make the remnant ready to return to the Promised Land. That's one reason for the Holocaust of almost 70 years ago. Had they listened to Herzl, we would be today the triple of what we are.
Ben
I believe they took holy texts and took them to mean what they reason them with their carnal minds and did the holocaust. The holy texts must be reasoned with a divine mind. Fire means the holy spirit which doesnt really harm life and if the mind that is love light. They took it to mean the kind of fire we know of that harms life and practiced that. Its the misinterpretation of scripture that is the problem which is why it should be rewritten to show the true meaning of it so there is no room for misinterpretation. We would never again have a holocaust in the name of religion then.
 
I believe they took holy texts and took them to mean what they reason them with their carnal minds and did the holocaust. The holy texts must be reasoned with a divine mind. Fire means the holy spirit which doesnt really harm life and if the mind that is love light. They took it to mean the kind of fire we know of that harms life and practiced that. Its the misinterpretation of scripture that is the problem which is why it should be rewritten to show the true meaning of it so there is no room for misinterpretation. We would never again have a holocaust in the name of religion then.


We should never say never again. Soon after the Christian fire of the Crusades for three centuries (X, XI, XII) we said that we would never experience such a catastrophe for such a long time. The castastrophe over out People came back under another name: The Christian Inquisition in the centuries between 1400 and 1600. After the loss of thousands of our People, we thought; now, that's it; no more. No more? Then, came the Hollocaust that harvested six million of our People. And all this, not to talk about the Christian pogroms and blood libels that took their share of our blood. That's the fate of the scapegoat for the salvation of Mankind. Didn't Jesus say that salvation comes from the Jews? (John 4:22) So, how can we ever say never again?
Ben
 
We should never say never again. Soon after the Christian fire of the Crusades for three centuries (X, XI, XII) we said that we would never experience such a catastrophe for such a long time. The castastrophe over out People came back under another name: The Christian Inquisition in the centuries between 1400 and 1600. After the loss of thousands of our People, we thought; now, that's it; no more. No more? Then, came the Hollocaust that harvested six million of our People. And all this, not to talk about the Christian pogroms and blood libels that took their share of our blood. That's the fate of the scapegoat for the salvation of Mankind. Didn't Jesus say that salvation comes from the Jews? (John 4:22) So, how can we ever say never again?
Ben

Well lets hope that we have progressed enough to say never again. I really believe rewriting scripture so there is no room for misinterpretation would help. No one could misuse it and claim they are doing wrong things in the name of god.
 
Well lets hope that we have progressed enough to say never again. I really believe rewriting scripture so there is no room for misinterpretation would help. No one could misuse it and claim they are doing wrong things in the name of god.


To a certain extent, somehow, I agree with you, as rewriting Scripture is concerned. But then again, who, Jews for the Jews, Christians for the Christians and so forth? The struggle will go on, as the wheels of life keep rolling. I mean, there will be no change.
Ben
 
To a certain extent, somehow, I agree with you, as rewriting Scripture is concerned. But then again, who, Jews for the Jews, Christians for the Christians and so forth? The struggle will go on, as the wheels of life keep rolling. I mean, there will be no change.
Ben

Maybe when everyone realizes that everyone is gods chosen people things will change. God really loves everyone equally.
 
Maybe when everyone realizes that everyone is gods chosen people things will change. God really loves everyone equally.


Yes, equally; I agree with you here. Othewise, to love one more or differently from another, it would be a reference to an anthropomorphic god, akin to Greek Mythology.
Ben
 
Yes, equally; I agree with you here. Othewise, to love one more or differently from another, it would be a reference to an anthropomorphic god, akin to Greek Mythology.
Ben

I agree. I have children and I love all of them equally. They are all different but my love for them is the same for all. If I love my children that way I know god being perfect loves his children that way.
 
I agree. I have children and I love all of them equally. They are all different but my love for them is the same for all. If I love my children that way I know god being perfect loves his children that way.

I understand what you mean, but you still cannot compare God with humans. (Isa. 46:5) God does not love one the way a human father does. He loves us all in the sense of an impartial provider through the elements of nature.
Ben
 
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