What do you hope for when you die?

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Quirkybird

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I hope I cease to be, the concept of an afterlife doesn't fill me with any great pleasure, especially the Biblical one.
 
Since we do not, and can not have a clue what happens after death, I really don't concern myself about it. So I have no desire of any kind. When I get there I will cope with it at that time, if there is anything to cope with.

Oh, and welcome Quirky!
 
Gordian Knot said:
Since we do not, and can not have a clue what happens after death, I really don't concern myself about it. So I have no desire of any kind. When I get there I will cope with it at that time, if there is anything to cope with.

Oh, and welcome Quirky!
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Thank you.:)

Of course it is just possible an afterlife of some sort exists, but I hope not.
 
I've got virtually no clue about what the afterlife may contain. Have not met anyone who has convinced me that they actually know more than that despite what they may say. Well, I am closer convinced by science...'nothing' than anything else.

I like the concepts of reincarnation, and of returning to the one, heaven and hell: I hardly give the time of day...they have disappeared with the passive aggressive need to be worshiped G!d.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
How sad. I can't imagine not wanting to continue on, perhaps in some sort of celestial form.
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Why is it sad? If you cease to be you are unaware, and that suits me fine, especially if the afterlife is unpleasant.
 
The deity featured in the Bible is less than pleasant, to put it mildly, so I certainly wouldn't wish to spend eternity with it. But of course if you are happy to do so, fair enough.
 
Quirkybird said:
The deity featured in the Bible is less than pleasant, to put it mildly, so I certainly wouldn't wish to spend eternity with it. But of course if you are happy to do so, fair enough.
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I don't disagree with you. The tone of the Bible rubs many the wrong way. What you have to understand though, is that the Bible was written in a different day and age. The negative tone reflects the social moors of the time. The other problem is all the passages that have been mistranslated, the passages that are missing and the passages that have been embellished. This makes literal interpretation nearly impossible, but if you can get past that and consternate on the overall message, it's not negative at all.
 
Namaste Jesus said:
I don't disagree with you. The tone of the Bible rubs many the wrong way. What you have to understand though, is that the Bible was written in a different day and age. The negative tone reflects the social moors of the time. The other problem is all the passages that have been mistranslated, the passages that are missing and the passages that have been embellished. This makes literal interpretation nearly impossible, but if you can get past that and consternate on the overall message, it's not negative at all.
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I realise that. I am of the opinion the Biblical deity is a human creation and doesn't actually exist. I doubt that much that is claimed for Jesus is true either. If he was alive today I suspect he might be surprised and shocked by what his supporters claim in his name.
 
I don't believe you to be as quirky as the name implies...

Two authors you'd be interested in.... Bishop John Shelby Spong ... and Bart Ehrman.

Both went through a similar 'enlightenment' as you... one remained a believer, the other an agnostic...
 
Oh I am definitely quirky, my kids say I am the neighbourhood eccentric and definitely senile!:D
 
I hope I will be able to tell those living what actually happens after death.
I am sure they won't believe me if I don't say what they want to listen.

Welcome Quirkybird
 
I tend to believe the stories from people who had near death experiences to be true. What they describe (a sudden immersion in a powerful light, communication with the light, an intense feeling of unconditional love and acceptance, etc.) sounds good to me.

Tad
 
Quirkybird said:
I realise that. I am of the opinion the Biblical deity is a human creation and doesn't actually exist. I doubt that much that is claimed for Jesus is true either. If he was alive today I suspect he might be surprised and shocked by what his supporters claim in his name.
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Ok Q, what's best for you, is what's best for you. Take a look around and read some of the past posts. You're sure to find a path that will suit you just fine. Keep an open mind though, some of the stuff diviates from convensional thinking quite a ways... and that's a good thing!
 
Deviates from conventional thinking???


Well of course it does! Conventional thinking is what forced us to think! I teach Sunday school, and we may have a lesson plan, a topic for discussion, a biblical passage to contemplate...but all that is secondary. We want the kids that enter that door to know one thing... They are loved. We want them to feel and grasp the understanding of unconditional love. That is number one...number two is that we don't want to teach them what to think, but 'to' think. Not take anything for um....er...gospel, but to question, to contemplate, meditate, circumambulate. So whatever is in their 'now' whatever is formost on their mind, what is troubling/bothering them is what we are concerned with...and once we accomplish that...and it is ok that that is all we accomplish...but if we do...we go onto the lesson plan...of unconventional thought.
 
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