Hoax or can BigJoe AND Ben both dance??
http://www.differencemind.com/2015/04/1500-year-old-bible-claims-jesus-christ.html
http://www.differencemind.com/2015/04/1500-year-old-bible-claims-jesus-christ.html
Gospel of Barnabas
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BigJoeNobody
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I don't get why you are being hostile wil.
As for the claim, there was several gospels of Barnabas claimed to be found in Iberia a few decades ago, but they were Spanish and written in the 12th to 15th century. It called both Jesus and Mouhammed (PBUT) as Messiah. It is mostly viewed as a misunderstanding/hoax of the 12th century Moorish Propaganda machine that was doing all it could to hold onto Iberia.
However A few years ago someone in Turkey brought forth a book (i've heard several stories of how it came to be brought to the Turkish Authorities), and it is created in a way that hasn't been done in a very long time. The story I get the most is that it was confiscated from a stolen historical collection. The Scientists initially dated it to around 800 AD (according to some sources), but later tests showed it could be from as far back as 50-100 AD.
Overall, I find the article suspect at best (and all the 1000s of others like it). I would love for it to be confirmed to within the 1st few centuries AD, but odds are slim. The propaganda around it is so thick, there is even claims that the last Pope left his position shortly after reading it for the first time. Although it has been reviewed by the Vatican, I don't believe anyone is confirming its legitimacy yet.
As for the claim, there was several gospels of Barnabas claimed to be found in Iberia a few decades ago, but they were Spanish and written in the 12th to 15th century. It called both Jesus and Mouhammed (PBUT) as Messiah. It is mostly viewed as a misunderstanding/hoax of the 12th century Moorish Propaganda machine that was doing all it could to hold onto Iberia.
However A few years ago someone in Turkey brought forth a book (i've heard several stories of how it came to be brought to the Turkish Authorities), and it is created in a way that hasn't been done in a very long time. The story I get the most is that it was confiscated from a stolen historical collection. The Scientists initially dated it to around 800 AD (according to some sources), but later tests showed it could be from as far back as 50-100 AD.
Overall, I find the article suspect at best (and all the 1000s of others like it). I would love for it to be confirmed to within the 1st few centuries AD, but odds are slim. The propaganda around it is so thick, there is even claims that the last Pope left his position shortly after reading it for the first time. Although it has been reviewed by the Vatican, I don't believe anyone is confirming its legitimacy yet.
Hostile? What was hostile? I simply suggested if this wasn't a hoax it validates what both of you have been saying...
Is dancing hostile? Me and my sufi friends enjoy the heck outta it!
Is dancing hostile? Me and my sufi friends enjoy the heck outta it!
BigJoeNobody
Professional Argument Attractor
my apologies, I took "can you both dance" in a southern tongue.
lol....fightin words... I see....perception eh?
arthra
Baha'i
I've read the Gospel of Barnabas... the one that's from the Renaissance period.. There was an earlier Gospel of Barnabas but it was rejected by Nicea.. I doubt very much if the two "Gospels" have any connection. Years ago at University I had a Syrian roommate that recommended I read the Gospel of Barnabas... It wasn't until years later that I was able to read it. Anyway.. it is interesting ...but it seems to be a late production. You can read it online at
http://barnabas.net/chapters/48-1-true-gospel-of-jesus
From the text: "When the soldiers with Judas drew near to the place where Jesus was, Jesus heard the approach of many people, wherefore in fear he withdrew into the house. And the eleven were sleeping. Then God, seeing the danger of his servant, commanded Gabriel;, Michael;, Rafael;, and Uriel, his ministers, to take Jesus out of the world. The holy angels came and took Jesus out by the window that looks toward the South;. They bare him and placed him in the third heaven in the company of angels blessing God for evermore."
A chapter on the crucifixion of Judas follows:
http://barnabas.net/chapters/265-217-judas-was-crucified
http://barnabas.net/chapters/48-1-true-gospel-of-jesus
From the text: "When the soldiers with Judas drew near to the place where Jesus was, Jesus heard the approach of many people, wherefore in fear he withdrew into the house. And the eleven were sleeping. Then God, seeing the danger of his servant, commanded Gabriel;, Michael;, Rafael;, and Uriel, his ministers, to take Jesus out of the world. The holy angels came and took Jesus out by the window that looks toward the South;. They bare him and placed him in the third heaven in the company of angels blessing God for evermore."
A chapter on the crucifixion of Judas follows:
http://barnabas.net/chapters/265-217-judas-was-crucified
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So we've got this one here in the IO apocrypha.. http://www.interfaith.org/christianity/apocrypha-gospel-of-barnabas/ but I guess this is different than the one they found...
BigJoeNobody
Professional Argument Attractor
You are correct wil... from my understanding the one listed here is the later renditions with pseudo Islam thrown in. The one found in turkey dates back much further and is written in syriac from what I've been told. As i said before I wish it could be examined and confirmed of the correct age. From what I've understood it is a great link between Islam and Christianity.