He was arguing with himself....right?
Gethsemane
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LOL, not quite.
It's all tied in with the theology of Incarnation.
God took on human nature, but not, as some gnostic schools insisted, as a deity who only appeared to be human, but completely human, so one person in two natures. He became human — as the Fathers taught, 'God became a man, that man might become God'. Christ is the archetype and symbol of our deification. Without that, deification is a non-starter.
In Gethsemane we have the God-man addressing the Divine from the standpoint of a man. Hence the fear, sweat, etc. This is fallen human nature in the face of the Divine.
How do we know what took place? Christ withdrew to pray alone, and Peter, James and John fell asleep, so where does the testimony come from?
Again, the Father's taught it is a lesson for us.
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I did a Google, and an enormous amount of conjecture comes up. The philosopher George Santayana famously said: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." In this instance, it's more like 'those who don't know the Tradition are making it up on the fly' ...
It's all tied in with the theology of Incarnation.
God took on human nature, but not, as some gnostic schools insisted, as a deity who only appeared to be human, but completely human, so one person in two natures. He became human — as the Fathers taught, 'God became a man, that man might become God'. Christ is the archetype and symbol of our deification. Without that, deification is a non-starter.
In Gethsemane we have the God-man addressing the Divine from the standpoint of a man. Hence the fear, sweat, etc. This is fallen human nature in the face of the Divine.
How do we know what took place? Christ withdrew to pray alone, and Peter, James and John fell asleep, so where does the testimony come from?
Again, the Father's taught it is a lesson for us.
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I did a Google, and an enormous amount of conjecture comes up. The philosopher George Santayana famously said: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." In this instance, it's more like 'those who don't know the Tradition are making it up on the fly' ...