"Black holes have hair"

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Today, black hole is unimaginable. Tomorrow, the scientist may explain it. The black hole is in the creation and can’t be the unimaginable creator. If the black hole is going to be unimaginable forever, you can say that the unimaginable nature of the creator (cause) has entered the effect (creation) just like the black colour of mud enters the pot. It is better to stick to the unimaginable boundary of space as the unimaginable example created by the unimaginable God because the boundary of the universe can never be explained by science.

Space must have a boundary because, if space has no boundary, the boundary of space becomes unknown, even to the omniscient God. Then, God cannot be omniscient due to His ignorance about the boundary of space. Therefore, from the view-point of God, the boundary of space does exist. Beyond that boundary, the unimaginable God alone exists and He is without spatial co-ordinates and hence, without volume. An item without volume cannot be imagined by anybody even after concentrating on it for millions of births and therefore, the God beyond space is unimaginable.

From the view-point of the soul, the existing boundary of the universe can never be reached by the soul because if the soul touches the boundary of space, it touches the unimaginable God existing beyond the boundary of space. Since the unimaginable God can never be touched even by the imagination of the soul, the boundary of the universe or space can never be touched by the soul. If a ship reaches the boundary of the ocean, it means that it has reached the shore or the land, which exists beyond the boundary of the ocean. Hence, the boundary of the infinite space is untouchable in the sense that it can never be reached by the soul.

Assuming that the soul is running to touch the boundary of the universe, the universe appears to continuously expand, so that the soul can never touch the boundary of space. This can be correlated with the scientific concept of the constantly expanding universe. In the Gītā, God Kṛṣṇa has said that His creation is endless, which means that the boundary of His creation can never be touched by the human being or even by the angel (Nā'ntosti mama divyānām…—Gītā). Both the human being and the angel (energetic being) are only souls. God Kṛṣṇa was preaching to Arjuna about the endless creation created by Him (God). So, the universe was said to be endless from the view-point of Arjuna, a human being.
 

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From the view-point of the soul, the existing boundary of the universe can never be reached by the soul because if the soul touches the boundary of space, it touches the unimaginable God existing beyond the boundary of space.
I think you're trying to explain complex theories and perhaps over-reaching yourself?

But in my tradition God is immanently present in and to the soul, and can be 'touched', that is, God can be sensed and known, but never, of course, fully comprehended, because there's no 'thing' to comprehend, God transcending our understanding. It that sense God is both known, and an unfathomable mystery.

In Greek philosophy, a name for the Divine was 'the Boundless' – apeiron.
 

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I think you're trying to explain complex theories and perhaps over-reaching yourself?

But in my tradition God is immanently present in and to the soul, and can be 'touched', that is, God can be sensed and known, but never, of course, fully comprehended, because there's no 'thing' to comprehend, God transcending our understanding. It that sense God is both known, and an unfathomable mystery.

In Greek philosophy, a name for the Divine was 'the Boundless' – apeiron.
God can be seen here itself in this world. God is unimaginable and beyond space. He do not possess any spatial coordinates. But such God comes to this world in human form to preach and uplift us through His divine knowledge. God alone knows about Himself. Since God is impartial He comes to this world in every human generation to preach and uplift us. He is called Human incarnation of God. He can be identified from the excellent divine knowledge that He preaches us.
 

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Since God is impartial He comes to this world in every human generation to preach and uplift us. He is called Human incarnation of God. He can be identified from the excellent divine knowledge that He preaches us.
I'd say God is immanently present to all, everywhere, all the time, if they open their hearts to Him.

Any number of people perform divine acts, as it were, every day of the week – acts of charity, of compassion, of humility, of grace – wherever good works are done, God is there. Where authentic love is, God is there. But God is not strictly incarnate in those many, many persons. They may be called saints or sages, but the majority pass un-spoken and un-noticed.

Incarnation in its most general sense then, yes. But Incarnation in the sense that is spoken of in Christianity is very, very rare, if not unique.

As you have said, God reveals Himself to different people, at different times, in different ways. Incarnation is not a requirement of every Revelation.
 

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I'd say God is immanently present to all, everywhere, all the time, if they open their hearts to Him.

Any number of people perform divine acts, as it were, every day of the week – acts of charity, of compassion, of humility, of grace – wherever good works are done, God is there. Where authentic love is, God is there. But God is not strictly incarnate in those many, many persons. They may be called saints or sages, but the majority pass un-spoken and un-noticed.

Incarnation in its most general sense then, yes. But Incarnation in the sense that is spoken of in Christianity is very, very rare, if not unique.

As you have said, God reveals Himself to different people, at different times, in different ways. Incarnation is not a requirement of every Revelation.
See, why God need to come to this world in human form, let us anlayse it. Intelligence is the highest mental faculty of the human being. Since the unimaginable God is beyond human intelligence, no one can even think about Him. This makes it impossible even for great scholars to think about unimaginable God. Being great devotees, such scholars would at least like to meditate upon God. But the real climax devotees are not satisfied with mere meditation. They want to see God, talk with Him, worship Him and also serve Him.


To satisfy the theoretical devotion of these scholars and the practical devotion of these climax devotees, there is the utmost necessity for God’s Incarnation. Therefore, God incarnates in an energetic body in the upper worlds for the sake of energetic beings and in a human body on this earth for the sake of human beings. On one side there is a great necessity for the incarnation of God, and on the other side, God can easily incarnate in this way, due to His omnipotence. In that case, it is unimaginable to think why there is any necessity for anybody to put his or her dirty finger in this topic and object to this concept of Human Incarnation!
 

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See, why God need to come to this world in human form, let us anlayse it. Intelligence is the highest mental faculty of the human being. Since the unimaginable God is beyond human intelligence, no one can even think about Him. This makes it impossible even for great scholars to think about unimaginable God. Being great devotees, such scholars would at least like to meditate upon God. But the real climax devotees are not satisfied with mere meditation. They want to see God, talk with Him, worship Him and also serve Him.

To satisfy the theoretical devotion of these scholars and the practical devotion of these climax devotees, there is the utmost necessity for God’s Incarnation. Therefore, God incarnates in an energetic body in the upper worlds for the sake of energetic beings and in a human body on this earth for the sake of human beings. On one side there is a great necessity for the incarnation of God, and on the other side, God can easily incarnate in this way, due to His omnipotence. In that case, it is unimaginable to think why there is any necessity for anybody to put his or her dirty finger in this topic and object to this concept of Human Incarnation!

Source: Defects of human beings and merit of God... (speakingtree.in)
 
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The topic highjacked. Nothing about black-holes. Dattaswami2, do you understand anything about the topic? What is it talking about?
 

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The topic highjacked. Nothing about black-holes. Dattaswami2, do you understand anything about the topic? What is it talking about?

His posts are copied and pasted from another website, using the reply button, and sometimes using a few key words from the post to choose what to copy and paste, only to make it look like he is actually responding to what people are saying.
 
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