Would breast reduction (for health and appearance) be completely something different than having your breasts completely removed in lieu of becoming a non-female?
I would say that there is some overlap. Starting with a breast reduction rather than a full mastectomy would probably be a better way to go with these folks. A full double mastectomy would require follow-up sculpting and such, so why not just start with the breast reduction first and see if that helps these folk feel better about themselves?
It's about the encouragement of a rush towards life-changing cosmetic surgery as a fashion fad amongst teenagers by universities and activist medics and counsellors, without a proper consideration of the gender dysphoria as genuine and long lasting, imo
Well, if sold as such: "Kids get your breasts removed today, to reduce the risk of cancer later on."
Sometimes the surgery isn't cosmetic. One of my cousins had reduction surgery because she was constantly in pain due to being huge (her back pain was worse during her first pregnancy.) She was reduced to a DD cup, and she breathed a sigh of relief afterwards from what I understand. Both sides of her family ran "extra extra large" in the breast department. An equivalent that you might be able to understand is if you had a phallus roughly the size of a young bull elephant's prior to surgery.
Ok, other than scarring, what is the downside of having your breasts removed or reduced? I can certainly see the downside of hormonal therapies and the "bottom surgeries" if one is not firmly transgender. I can see the downside to the lip surgery fashion trend. However, I am really having difficulty understanding why people flip out over breast removal, to the point of Jordan Peterson calling Elliot's physician who removed their breasts criminal. No one blinks an eye at young women having ribs removed for beauty contests, which is much more harmful.
I think it's probably the context. Breast removal is being sold as gender transformation surgery, in conjunction with hormone therapy etc, to young impressionable teenagers. In the context Peterson is reacting to Elliot as a role model, but I have said that Peterson seems to go over the top a bit nowadays. It's understood that he feels very strongly about his subject and his mission. Elliot is an informed adult, not a child.
Well look, the videos and podcasts here indicate anything but denial of gender treatment. It's the opposite: it is being encouraged and rushed through, and as such is becoming a fashion-fad.* That is the issue. The issue is never with genuine gender dysphoria, but with activist medics and counsellors pushing and encouraging youngsters to begin gender transition treatment -- both hormonal and surgical -- without the proper medical and psychological checks and balances. Clinical psychologists are instructed to affirm and assist, rather than to assess and guide.
