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I think such deep thinking needs a response. You dont have to read it if you dont want to.As minds say it, there is no one alive that can ever figure this out, there is no one alive that can ever know anything about anything here, there is no one alive that can teach you anything about anything here. To understand these words is to understand that all the knowledge and information you posses means absolutely nothing at all.
In the dream worlds and within minds you can find many minds together to figure things out. The more minds needed to figure something out the further you get from the things your trying to understand. Minds will say I am many more minds then you are to figure things out, I am so much more time then you are to become something here, I am so many more thoughts then you are to figure things out. Many nothings together still equal nothing I will say to them. All the religions and all man’s books and teachings together still equal nothing I will also tell you.
I will ask you as I have asked many others, how can you figure anything out when you have nothing teaching you anything here? If you ever want to become something again you will need to figure things out knowing nothing about anything here. If Jesus is the one true god then why are there so many interpretations of who he is, why so many circles.
As far as the true god, he is himself only. Everything is inside of something to become something here. If you were able to become everything here in existence you would only then be able to find thoughts about him and still you could not figure him out. The rule of minds goes that you can figure out or become anything that is inside yourself to figure it out.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You do not need to respond I just wanted to share my thoughts on this topic.
But from my point of view, you are correct.
We can not fathom anything about the spiritual, for we are not in that environmant.
However, we can reference to what was recorded in the scriptures we have.
It works this way.
500 years from now, after an Apocalypse where only a few people remained that never learned any religion, we stumble upon a library, a small one, less than 15 books.
One Bible, a Quran, the Book of Mormon, the Diache, the Hadith, Upanishad, a Gita, the Egyptian Book of the dead, and a couple more.
And we get the God Delusion, and the Principia of Newton. Das Kapital and Mein Kamph might also be there.
Now we can safely say, we dont know anything about anything on science and religion.
One guy takes the old publication by some obscure scientific organisation, which we dont know who they were (NASA) and he studies this scientific descriptions on the origins of the Solar system.
One takes the Bible, the other the Gita and another the Quran and so on.
Ye are only about 10 000 people, 3 generations after everyone else was wiped from the earth, and we are curious to know what these ancient buildings and rusted machinery is we see around us.
We fortunately know how to read and write, and we decided to form a panel of readers that will discuss what we learned.
We are intelligent enough to learn to use telescopes, after we dusted it off, and saw that the ancient book of NASA gives a very good explanation on what the universe consists of, and their explanation on how it formed is very logical.
But we dont know how it came into existence.
On one of our meetings where we told each other what we learned, Someone tells us that he started to read a book, and that book speaks about a Creator that made it all.
He says, even the very beginning of the book gives an explanation.
Another guy says, he also found another book, that has some explanations similar than the first.
A few more people tells the same story.
One guy says he wondered why the book he read, vehemently opposed this stories about a Creator and says everything came out of nothing, but gravity.
So, how will me know which book or philosophy is correct?
This is exactly where we are standing today without an apocalypse.
We have our thoughts about nothing, yet we refuse to read what answers is supplied in books that claim to have the answer.
Well, I can only criticize an atheist after I read the God delusion, or the Quran for that matter.
Any Atheist criticizing the Bible, without reading it first, is guilty of deception.
However, I can not understand how anyone can criticize Einstein, if they never read his theory of special relativity.
Anyone criticizing any philosophy, without ever investigating it for himself, is a mere fool.
That's why I read it all. to see if there are answers to my questions.
Not to sit in a bubble thinking I will get the answer if I think a lot about nothing.