'Amir Alzzalam
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What exactly was the point of this Abrahamic god for designing Mankind?
..the point is "frozen"What exactly was the point of this Abrahamic god for designing Mankind?
What does that mean?..the point is "frozen"![]()
Yes..Maybe the mystics have a deeper understanding than to ask what the point is..
..but most atheists would claim that their lives aren't pointless .. and that's another point!As I see it, "having no point" comes close to nihilism, to meaninglessness. Yet again, as I see it, the nihilism of an ardent atheist determined to believe that when "we are dead we are dead" and likes to think of themselves as hardnosed and living in a pointless universe/reality, is paradoxically of another order entirely to the pointlessness of our mystics.
Why couldn't 'god' have already given us His Holy Spirit? Why create a 'testing ground'? What about the thousands of years of non-Abrahamic religions? Are they simply doomed?Meister Eckhart, says "Love has no why" - which would seem to avoid "points". He also says, “In giving us His love God has given us the Holy Spirit so that we can love Him with the love wherewith He loves Himself.” Therefore Eckhart is saying that a Love that "knows no why" is shared out by God. The love in which there is perfect freedom is ours to find, to know, to live.
Nihilism is one perspective, the other closely related it Atheism. Both of these philosophies actually propose the opposite of what you are suggesting. If Death is final, it is of most importance to LIVE every moment to its FULLEST. There is no happy happy after Death. You make your Heaven or Hell here on earth.As I see it, "having no point" comes close to nihilism, to meaninglessness. Yet again, as I see it, the nihilism of an ardent atheist determined to believe that when "we are dead we are dead" and likes to think of themselves as hardnosed and living in a pointless universe/reality, is paradoxically of another order entirely to the pointlessness of our mystics.
Amida?Myself, I have no love for the Abrahamic God as often portrayed by his adherents. Give me Amida any day of the week..........
Ah, but you don't KNOW when you will die .. you might die before you are able to repent.Roman emperors specifically avoided Baptism so that they could be as horrible as they wanted to be, then on their Death-Bed they would be Baptised and resolved of all their 'SINS'..
Gobbledygook superstition and hopes and blind faith. The bottom line remains in my OP . . . What Is The Point?Ah, but you don't KNOW when you will die .. you might die before you are able to repent.
..not a good strategy.
In any case, if a person has a strong faith, they won't do that. They would make effort
to achieve piety, and a high status in the paradise.
Why couldn't 'god' have already given us His Holy Spirit? Why create a 'testing ground'? What about the thousands of years of non-Abrahamic religions? Are they doomed?
Once again you drift, at least from my perspective. You seem to be addressing someone else.Nihilism is one perspective, the other closely related it Atheism. Both of these philosophies actually propose the opposite of what you are suggesting. If Death is final, it is of most importance to LIVE every moment to its FULLEST. There is no happy happy after Death. You make your Heaven or Hell here on earth.
Believing you are going to be 'forgiven' in some way through submission to a god's mercy provides you with a POINTLESS EXISTENCE. Roman emperors specifically avoided Baptism so that they could be as horrible as they wanted to be, then on their Death-Bed they would be Baptised and resolved of all their 'SINS'
Amida?
Ah .. so you know that there is no life after death, is that it?Gobbledygook superstition..
OK ... FINAL WARNINGGobbledygook superstition and hopes and blind faith.
A rule across the entire forum.I am very grateful for the creation of this subforum by the admins... this can be a great place for 'us' to talk without antagonizing non-left hand path religions...
I'll save you time, just kick me now . . .OK ... FINAL WARNING
In your first post on the LHP forum, created at your request, you say:
A rule across the entire forum.
And if I may paraphrase from later in the same post:
"So ... let's discuss our philosophies, practices, and beliefs. All are welcome to discuss our Path as well. Please keep it civil."
Yes, let us doi just that.
So if you cannot discuss without antagonism, and can't sustain civility in regard to those who do not think as you do ... then the hypocrisy is evident and you are, as they say, hoist on your own petard.