What evidence would you accept?

Peace to all,

The combined powers of one God in being transfigure from three gods pre-existing from creation through transformation for glorification becoming again in one family, I believe.

Peace all,
Stephen
 
Aupmanyav said:
Belief does not necessarily require 'truth'.
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No, it doesn't.
People believe all sorts of things .. and we can decide for ourselves what we think is "true or false".

For example, I don't believe that it is true that science has a monopoly on 'truth'. :)
You might believe otherwise.
 
muhammad_isa said:
No, it doesn't.
People believe all sorts of things .. and we can decide for ourselves what we think is "true or false".

For example, I don't believe that it is true that science has a monopoly on 'truth'. :)
You might believe otherwise.
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Peace to all,

Logic preexists becoming authority manifesting infinite disciplines becoming through the flesh becoming again hypo-statically united dynamically in One God in being a Family.

Peace always,
Strephen
 
Stephen Andrew said:
The combined powers of one God in being transfigure from three gods pre-existing from creation through transformation for glorification becoming again in one family, I believe.
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'Special Pleading'. You are welcome to that.
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
The source of all truth begets faith.
Negating that source, is then logically, our greatest fallacy.
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And what is that? Rant of an uneducated 19th Century Iranian of Shia Muslim extraction who claimed to be a messenger of Allah?
muhammad_isa said:
For example, I don't believe that it is true that science has a monopoly on 'truth'. :)
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Kindly give your reasons to believe so. ;)
 
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Peace to all,

Muhammad always says, One God.

Ishmael and Isaac were brothers to each other and cousins to all mankind from two different mothers Sarah and Hagar and a father with two names Abraham and Abram.

We don't want to judge what's going on today, but through generalization, we can see what it takes for all to become one family from the faith of Abraham.

Jesus came to remove the separation, causing contention and the mental anger in the metal hatred for all becoming co-heirs to the same throne through the same temple by uniting all brothers and sisters from one father through one mother, becoming sons and daughters of God through one son in the Christ for all mankind becoming again One Holy Spirit Family One God in being.

Peace always,
Stephen
 
Not much different from what Moses or Husayn Ali Nuri said. The set pattern is followed by all Abrahamic religions. Only brand names change.
 
Aupmanyav said:
We should call it 'Quantum consciousness' ...
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LOL, I would prefer not, as that's just limits our understanding of consciousness, if that means consciousness is a produce of quantum mechanics – whi hscience seems to refute.

Victor Stenger characterises quantum consciousness as a "myth" having "no scientific basis" that "should take its place along with gods, unicorns and dragons".
(Victor Stenger, "The Myth of Quantum Consciousness", The Humanist, Vol. 53, no. 3, May–June 1992, pp. 13–15.)

Freeman Dyson argued that "... mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent inherent in every electron". (Infinite in All Directions: Gifford Lectures Given at Aberdeen, Scotland April–November 1985 (1st Perennial ed.). New York: Perennial, 2004. p. 297)
Now that idea, that mind is inherent in matter, is something I can agree with.

Roger Penrose, a proponent of quantum consciousness, said: "...whatever consciousness is, it must be beyond computable physics.... It's not that consciousness depends on quantum mechanics, it's that it depends on where our current theories of quantum mechanics go wrong. It's to do with a theory that we don't know yet."
(Michael Brooks, "Cosmic Thoughts" in New Scientist. 256, Autumn 2023, p.34–37)
Which says I can neither say yae or nay, until that new theory comes along ...

But again, I would advert there are theories, such as panpsychism, which offer solutions.

Aupmanyav said:
consciousness of 'what exists', the laws that energy/space/time follows.
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And yet consciousness is something other than energy/space/time, so does not necessarily follow those laws.

Aupmanyav said:
We do not have the answer at the moment, and that does not prove existence of 'One God'.
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I am not arguing the existence of God, any more than anything you've suggested argues the non-existence of God – that's rather the point.

Your whole argument is based on 'a lack of empirical evidence' whereas all science agrees that God, if such a thing exists as classically defined and understood, would not be accessible to empirical determination.

On those grounds, the 'empirical evidence' argument ranks as pseudoscience.
 
Peace to all,

What preexist is logical intelligence rationally becoming from a created white hot dense explosion creating from the Big Bang becoming through failed space in time in light mass becoming hypo-statically and dynamically united in two natures, light energy and light mass becoming in one body failed becoming for Adam and Eve.

This is what they don't know becoming transpiracy theory from the faith of Abraham.

Peace always,
Stephen
 
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I think Freeman Dyson – Fellow of the Royal Society, a British-American theoretical physicist and mathematician known for his works in quantum field theory, astrophysics, random matrices, mathematical formulation of quantum mechanics, condensed matter physics, nuclear physics, and engineering – said some interesting things pertinent to this debate.

He was a nondenominational Christian.

"Science and religion are two windows that people look through, trying to understand the big universe outside, trying to understand why we are here. The two windows give different views, but they look out at the same universe. Both views are one-sided, and neither is complete. Both leave out essential features of the real world. And both are worthy of respect. Trouble arises when either science or religion claims universal jurisdiction when either religious or scientific dogma claims to be infallible.
(Freeman Dyson, "Progress In Religion", a speech delivered in March 2000 on receipt of the Templeton Prize)
 
Peace to all,

We are here for the Gods becoming again one family, I believe.

What preexist is logical intelligence rationally becoming from a created white hot dense explosion creating from the Big Bang becoming through failed space in time in light mass becoming hypo-statically and dynamically united in two natures, light energy and light mass becoming in one body failed becoming for Adam and Eve.
 
Thomas said:
LOL, I would prefer not, as that's just limits our understanding of consciousness, if that means consciousness is a produce of quantum mechanics – which science seems to refute.
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True, I went overboard. But reverberations if I drop my dumbbells are felt even in the farthest corner of the universe.
(Actually, I do not have dumbbells at the moment, I am thinking of asking my brother-in-law who was an iron merchant if I could get a 4 cm - 2 inch dia iron round of the requisite weight. That will be the most economical. I promise I won't drop them)
 
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