God incarnate

[dayaa]

hello everyone
in the old testament in the early stories God is spoken of as if He has human form.....God created man in his own image....God walking in the garden etc.
then in christianity we have son of God (who is maybe also God himself). we have so many arguments between jews, christians and muslims about the nature of God, monotheism, who was or wasn't jesus.
personally i could better understand that God could be capable of putting some part of himself into human form in order to better communicate with us whilst still remaining God the omnipresent and omnipotent rather than "the only begotten son of the father" which i find rather a difficult concept to comprehend.
is it possible that the God of adam and the early peoples was God incarnate and that jesus might have been that same God incarnate?
i've got a horrible feeling that i don't know what i'm talking about . it souded like a good idea when i started to write it. anyway i'll go ahead and post it and see what comments i get. please excuse me if i've offended anyone's beliefs....no intention to do so.

 

[Bandit]

i could give you some of my beliefs on this, but it has been popping up here quite often lately & i am kind of burned out on it.

if the other ways, people see it, do not work for you all the way through, you can send me a PM someday, & I will talk to you about it.

 

[Dor]

Dayaa

In the NT. we are told that no one has ever heard or seen the Father.
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.(KJV)
Joh 5:37And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.(KJV)
Joh 6:46Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.(KJV)

There is a post we had going on about this not too long ago at http://www.comparative-religion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2843&page=1&pp=15

I personally believe it was the pre incarnate Christ.

 

[Faithfulservant]

Most Christians recognize that Jesus is God.. We know that Jesus is "the Word" [John 1:1], and that no one has ever seen the Father [John 6:46, 1:18]. Since Jesus is the image of the invisible God [Colossians 1:15], then if anyone at anytime has seen God, then we should expect that they saw the image of the invisible God, the Word, Jesus.

Consider the following people who saw the LORD [Yahweh] in the Old Testament

Hagar [Gen 16:7-13]
Abraham [Gen 18-19:1]
Jacob [Genesis 32:28--see Hosea 12:3-5]
Moses [Exodus 33:11]
Joshua [Joshua 5:13-6:2]
Gideon [Judges 6:11-23]
Manoah [Judges 13:2-22]
Isaiah [Isaiah 6:5]
Job [Job 42:5]

Who did they see? It was not God the Father [John 1:18; 6:46], so it must be the visual image of the GodHead

John 5:37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form

John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
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John 6:46 Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.
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[InLove]

Hi, and Peace!

Who did they see? It was not God the Father [John 1:18; 6:46], so it must be the visual image of the GodHead

What a great way to state things, Faithfulservant! I guess I have never heard anyone put it quite that way.

InPeace,
InLove

 

[smkolins]

Who did they see? It was not God the Father [John 1:18; 6:46], so it must be the visual image of the GodHead

John 5:37 And the Father Himself, who sent Me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time, nor seen His form

John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
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John 6:46 Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father.
​

Thus the analogy:"The dawning-place of these splendors, the place of these reflections, and the appearance of these manifestations are the Holy Dawning-places, the Universal Realities and the Divine Beings, Who are the true mirrors of the sanctified Essence of God. All the perfections, the bounties, the splendors which come from God are visible and evident in the Reality of the Holy Manifestations, like the sun which is resplendent in a clear polished mirror with all its perfections and bounties. If it be said that the mirrors are the manifestations of the sun and the dawning-places of the rising star, this does not mean that the sun has descended from the height of its sanctity and become incorporated in the mirror, nor that the Unlimited Reality is limited to this place of appearance. God forbid! This is the belief of the adherents of anthropomorphism. No; all the praises, the descriptions and exaltations refer to the Holy Manifestations--that is to say, all the descriptions, the qualities, the names and the attributes which we mention return to the Divine Manifestations; but as no one has attained to the reality of the Essence of Divinity, so no one is able to describe, explain, praise or glorify it." From here