Namaste Zazen,
thank you for the post.
Zazen said:
u need to know, many people on this site ENJOY going into large discussions on the subject at hand, and others akin to it. whats important isnt the 10,000 methods to attain nirvana or this school or that philosophy etc etc
fyi, Buddha Shakyamuni taught that there are 84,000 different methods to enter the Dharma. 84,000 is a symbolic number in Sanskrit and is meant to indicate the various capacities and aptitudes of sentient beings, in toto.
the heart of the buddhas teaching was;
AVOID* evil
DO* good
PURIFY* the mind
the first two are by no means easier, but do not require a method as "vajradhara" would insist.
i think, Zazen, that you have me confused for someone else. i do not insist on a method in the least, especially with regards to engaging in skillful or unskillful moral actions.
nevertheless, for the cessation of dukkha, Buddha Shakyamunis teachings indicate:
"And what is the cessation of dukkha? From the cessation of
craving is the cessation of dukkha; and just this
noble eightfold path —
right view,
right resolve,
right speech,
right action,
right livelihood,
right effort,
right mindfulness,
right concentration — is the path of practice leading to the cessation of dukkha.
"Now when a disciple of the noble ones discerns dukkha in this way, the cause by which dukkha comes into play in this way, the diversity of dukkha in this way, the result of dukkha in this way, the cessation of dukkha in this way, & the path of practice leading to the cessation of dukkha in this way, then he discerns this penetrative holy life as the cessation of dukkha."
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AN VI.63
"Vision arose, insight arose, discernment arose, knowledge arose, illumination arose within me with regard to things never heard before: 'This is the noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation of stress'... 'This
noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation of stress is to be developed'... 'This noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation of stress has been developed.'
—
SN LVI.11
"In the same way I saw an ancient path, an ancient road, traveled by the Rightly Self-awakened Ones of former times. And what is that ancient path, that ancient road, traveled by the Rightly Self-awakened Ones of former times? Just this noble eightfold path:
right view,
right resolve,
right speech,
right action,
right livelihood,
right effort,
right mindfulness,
right concentration... I followed that path. Following it, I came to direct knowledge of birth... becoming... clinging... craving... feeling... contact... the six sense media... name-&-form... consciousness, direct knowledge of the origination of consciousness, direct knowledge of the cessation of consciousness, direct knowledge of the path leading to the cessation of consciousness. I followed that path.
"Following it, I came to direct knowledge of fabrications, direct knowledge of the origination of fabrications, direct knowledge of the cessation of fabrications, direct knowledge of the path leading to the cessation of fabrications. Knowing that directly, I have revealed it to monks, nuns, male lay followers & female lay followers, so that this holy life has become powerful, rich, detailed, well-populated, wide-spread, proclaimed among celestial & human beings."
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SN XII.65
we are, of course, called to test these teachings for ourselves before we adopt and uphold them as related in the Kalama Sutta.
metta,
~v