Silverbackman
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Is the Tower Of Babel story found the Bible and Torah in the Quran? If so how similar is it to the Christian and Jewish version of the story?
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Tower Of Babel In Islam?
- Thread starter Silverbackman
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This article should be a good read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel
There is a section in the article which says that the story is mentioned in the Qur'an.. this is just the opinion of the person writing the article. It says:
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Though not mentioned by name, the Qur'an has a story with similarities to the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel, though set in the Egypt of Moses. In Suras 28:38 and 40:36-37 Pharaoh asks Haman to build him a clay tower so that he can mount up to heaven and confront the God of Moses.
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Here are the verses the article mentions (showing two translations):
28:38. Pharaoh said: "O Chiefs! no god do I know for you but myself: therefore, O Haman! light me a (kiln to bake bricks) out of clay, and build me a lofty palace, that I may mount up to the god of Moses: but as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!" (Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation)
28:38. And Pharaoh said: O chiefs! I know not that ye have a god other than me, so kindle for me (a fire), O Haman, to bake the mud; and set up for me a lofty tower in order that I may survey the god of Moses; and lo! I deem him of the liars.
(Pickthal's Quran Translation)
40:36. Pharaoh said: "O Haman! Build me a lofty palace, that I may attain the ways and means-
40:37. "The ways and means of (reaching) the heavens, and that I may mount up to the god of Moses: But as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!" Thus was made alluring, in Pharaoh's eyes, the evil of his deeds, and he was hindered from the Path; and the plot of Pharaoh led to nothing but perdition (for him).
(Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation)
40:36. And Pharaoh said: O Haman! Build for me a tower that haply I may reach the roads,
40:37. The roads of the heavens, and may look upon the god of Moses, though verily I think him a liar. Thus was the evil that he did made fairseeming unto Pharaoh, and he was debarred from the (right) way. The plot of Pharaoh ended but in ruin. (Pickthal's Quran Translation)
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Now, the only reason i can see the writer of the article says that there are similarities is cause of the mentioning of the building of a tower. This is obviously not enough. I read Genesis 11, and the reasons for building the tower are different and the situation is also totally different. Also, Pharoah lived in Egypt, not in Babel. Humanity did not have one language in the time of Moses(pbuh). Even if I consider what the article said regarding what is mentioned in the Midrash, pretty much the same problems as far as I can tell.
regards,
thipps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel
There is a section in the article which says that the story is mentioned in the Qur'an.. this is just the opinion of the person writing the article. It says:
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Though not mentioned by name, the Qur'an has a story with similarities to the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel, though set in the Egypt of Moses. In Suras 28:38 and 40:36-37 Pharaoh asks Haman to build him a clay tower so that he can mount up to heaven and confront the God of Moses.
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Here are the verses the article mentions (showing two translations):
28:38. Pharaoh said: "O Chiefs! no god do I know for you but myself: therefore, O Haman! light me a (kiln to bake bricks) out of clay, and build me a lofty palace, that I may mount up to the god of Moses: but as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!" (Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation)
28:38. And Pharaoh said: O chiefs! I know not that ye have a god other than me, so kindle for me (a fire), O Haman, to bake the mud; and set up for me a lofty tower in order that I may survey the god of Moses; and lo! I deem him of the liars.
(Pickthal's Quran Translation)
40:36. Pharaoh said: "O Haman! Build me a lofty palace, that I may attain the ways and means-
40:37. "The ways and means of (reaching) the heavens, and that I may mount up to the god of Moses: But as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!" Thus was made alluring, in Pharaoh's eyes, the evil of his deeds, and he was hindered from the Path; and the plot of Pharaoh led to nothing but perdition (for him).
(Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation)
40:36. And Pharaoh said: O Haman! Build for me a tower that haply I may reach the roads,
40:37. The roads of the heavens, and may look upon the god of Moses, though verily I think him a liar. Thus was the evil that he did made fairseeming unto Pharaoh, and he was debarred from the (right) way. The plot of Pharaoh ended but in ruin. (Pickthal's Quran Translation)
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Now, the only reason i can see the writer of the article says that there are similarities is cause of the mentioning of the building of a tower. This is obviously not enough. I read Genesis 11, and the reasons for building the tower are different and the situation is also totally different. Also, Pharoah lived in Egypt, not in Babel. Humanity did not have one language in the time of Moses(pbuh). Even if I consider what the article said regarding what is mentioned in the Midrash, pretty much the same problems as far as I can tell.
regards,
thipps.