Thinking Beyond Darwin

[Bruce Michael]

Dear Friends,


The anthroposophist, Dr Hermann Poppelbaum has worked with this theme in his:

A New Zoology:
‘MAN’ as a Compendium of the ANIMAL KINGDOM
By Dr Hermann Popplebaum
Dr. Hermann Popplebaum was an zoologist who taught at Alfred University.

WAS DARWIN WRONG?
Yes — His Logic was Fatally Flawed
by Don Cruse


Darwin’s Devious Metaphors
Part I - the Problem
How an Error in Logic Changed the World — Perhaps for the Better
by Don Cruse

Thinking beyond Darwin: The idea of the type as a key to vertebrate evolution. Ernst Michael Kranich.

 

[Tao_Equus]

My dear Brucey boy,

A subject I am deeply interested in but cant engage in on this thread because you fail to give your own perspective. Relying on links to start a discussion on Darwin based on an "anthroposophist" (an·thro·pos·o·phy
n. A system of beliefs and practice based on the teachings of Rudolph Steiner and maintaining that by correct training and personal discipline one can attain experience of the spiritual world.) is ok by my book. But I dont want to debate it until I have heard your own opinion on it.

Regards

TE

 

[Bruce Michael]

My dear Brucey boy,

A subject I am deeply interested in but cant engage in on this thread because you fail to give your own perspective. Relying on links to start a discussion on Darwin based on an "anthroposophist" (an·thro·pos·o·phy
n. A system of beliefs and practice based on the teachings of Rudolph Steiner and maintaining that by correct training and personal discipline one can attain experience of the spiritual world.) is ok by my book. But I dont want to debate it until I have heard your own opinion on it.

Regards

TE

I replied to this but somehow it didn't through. I'll be posting more later.
Don Cruse is worth reading.

Anyhow, here's a question: who presented the Origin of the Species jointly with Darwin?..

 

[Tao_Equus]

I replied to this but somehow it didn't through. I'll be posting more later.
Don Cruse is worth reading.

Anyhow, here's a question: who presented the Origin of the Species jointly with Darwin?..

Do you mean jointly or who forced Darwin to 'reluctantly',(for he was fearful of the religious backlash), publish before he published his almost identical thoughts?

 

[Quahom1]

Do you mean jointly or who forced Darwin to 'reluctantly',(for he was fearful of the religious backlash), publish before he published his almost identical thoughts?

Darwin wasn't certain of his own writings. He asked the question "what if?" He presented evidence as to the possibility of evolution. He never said it was total irrafutable fact...(others ran with that banner). He also said there were "gaps" that could not be accounted for. He also never claimed God did not exist. He opined that there were other logical steps in man's development, that were ignored in scripture.

Darwin was not an athiest. He asked questions, questioned answers, and presented a possibility.

v/r

Q

 

[Bruce Michael]

Do you mean jointly or who forced Darwin to 'reluctantly',(for he was fearful of the religious backlash), publish before he published his almost identical thoughts?

The Alfred Russel Wallace Page
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He had begun a correspondence with Darwin two years earlier and knew that he was generally interested in "the species question"; perhaps Darwin would be kind enough to bring the work, titled 'On the Tendency of Varieties to Depart Indefinitely From the Original Type,' (S43) to the attention of Lyell? Darwin was in fact willing to do so, but not for any reasons Wallace had anticipated. Darwin, as the now well-known story goes, had been entertaining very similar ideas for going on twenty years, and now a threat to his priority on the subject loomed. He contacted Lyell to plead for advice on how to meet what just about anyone would have to admit was a very awkward situation. Lyell and Joseph Hooker, a prominent botanist and another of Darwin's close friends, decided to present Wallace's essay, along with some unpublished fragments from Darwin's writings on the subject, to the next meeting of the Linnean Society. This took place on 1 July 1858, without obtaining Wallace's permission first (he was contacted only after the fact).

Whatever one thinks about Wallace's treatment in this matter, the events of summer 1858 did ensure that the world wouldn't have to wait any longer for its introduction to the concept of natural selection. Darwin had been working on a much larger tome on the subject that was still many years away from completion (and in fact never was completed); Wallace's bombshell had the immediate effect of forcing him to get together a more compact, readable, and, ultimately, probably more successful work. On the Origin of Species was published less than eighteen months later, in November of 1859. And, although Darwin would overshadow Wallace from that point on, Wallace's role in the affair was well enough known to insiders, at least, to ensure his future entry into the highest ranks of scientific dialogue. It should in all fairness to Darwin be noted that Wallace took full advantage of this opportunity, an opportunity he might not otherwise have received.