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a summary of my understanding of life the universe and everything so far.
life:
primarily life is universal and is not of absolutely any given being entity nor aspect thereof, it is neither god/goddess/s or us. our self-centric perspective is secondary to the case, ultimately all cyclic entities and their elements are of the one. by the eternal return - the process of all things going back to their original state - the aspectations of existence [parts/natures] are temporary and must go back to their original state.
however, there are many things which are more than their apparent or otherwise transient state. these belong to the eternal element the permanent nature of existence, yet nothing is set in stone. what is temporary also belongs to the eternal and vice versa, it is only by a three-fold description - of being ‘either-neither-and-both’ all at once - that they may be perceived.
the animus [term originally meant in the greek context, then redefined as the animating principle {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animus_%28concept%29}]
we may imagine life the universal single entity as being like an ocean and all living beings arise without effort therein. it is a ‘force’ which has an internal principle of ‘self generation’, wherever it can become it shall, in other words if there is a form it can reside in then it will automatically ‘enter’ it. however, as all things belong to this living universe and eternity, the ‘it’ of which the life enters belong to the same original thing and may be seen as different versions of that.
let us take the example of yeast, you add water to it and it is alive according to our ordinary definitions of life. yet it is alive even when it is not animated, thus to explain how this can be then here we enter further principles of universal life; that of the ‘animus’. this is a name given to that force which must become, and which is inherent within the entity of life. we may define it as ‘passive’ and ‘active’, the passive element is where a life-form which has already arisen from the primary state [the ocean] becomes duel synchronous with that state as if held in suspended animation. yet the two states although the same in context are not the same as actual, in other words the passive animus is life mimicking the original state. the active animus is present within both the passive animus and the original universal entity of life, it is the very drive by which things become manifest. so when you give water to the yeast it may then become animated and ‘alive’ once more. here then we may see how life will happen where ever it can given the correct conditions.
complex life and the eternal entity
our yeast as everything else has an eternal nature, this is because the eternal return is two-fold - it mirrors existence, you have the original universal primary state coupled with the reflection of all given individualised states. in order to have cycles we must have a returning state of entity and it is this eternal potentiality by which all evolved life are formed. to explain further let us imagine it in simple forms; a circle will always be arrived at, you can end the universe and all things then as soon as a new universe is manifest then you will have circles, this is because it is a simple and primary form that will always happen. this does not mean that you will always have say lions and tigers in any given evolution of a universe, but it does mean that evolution will become increasingly dextrous and its forms will follow suit. thus there will always be a series of forms similar to lions and tigers and indeed humans as an ultimate evolutionary example. this however is not a complete description of the eternal version...
the universe ...and everything
the universe is also a single entity. as time is a ‘universal relativistic moment’ [the past and future don’t exist] it may be so that existence repeats itself endlessly and cyclically, without having to be infinite, this may mean that there is an end state that is the same as the beginning state. irrespective of this that end-state is present throughout and is the basis of eternity. in order to arrive at ‘the eternal version’, let us imagine that there was a purely physical universe to begin with, every form it took formed an imprint upon the aether [the universal essence of all things]. when the next universe arose then when it draws from the life ocean it also draws from the imprint of past events natures principles and forms, this would be the ‘eternal pool’ - the die by which things are cast. let us then imagine that the first universes were very simple in form and became increasingly complex with each evolution, as this would make sense considering that there would not be much potential to go by primarily.
we may now after building this in our minds, take a leap and say that all the imprints that will ever be made in all universes are within the aether as it exists outside of time. couple this with infinite potential - due to the fact that infinity is the ultimate primary state. now we can see that there always existed the imprint of every possible occurrence and this would include everything you are as an holistic entity [or whole being], whereby we are manifest from the eternal ocean of life and mirroring the universe, we and all forms potentially have endless cycles. this is like a hand-in-glove thing, where the universe does not die it simply returns to its basic form and then re-evolves, we like the yeast belong to the three-fold nature of existence. it is entirely possible that we could be put in some kind of stasis then brought back to life - so to say. however our vehicle of existing - the human form - is limited, when it can no longer accommodate our eternal form then we return to the great ocean of life and are reformed in the aether, thence our eternal version is returned in its next incarnation. it is so that there is an evolution of life-forms both physically and in terms of the living entity of the eternal version [you], within in us are every kind of incarnation of all the evolutions of all universes.
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here’s a selection of replies from another forum - just so we don’t go down the same road.
for instance: i would define infinity as incomparative, the full meaning of which is that it cannot be defined as infinity, thence the term becomes only a description. similarly many of our current scientific descriptions may be thought of in a similar context i.e. gravity momentum and the forces etc. are ‘the entity’ being worked upon as if it is a lump of clay being given shape and even that which shapes it is part of that same thing.
"Do they exist completely without matter for eternity or not?"
yes and no [it = either neither and both]. energy occurs when the universal entity acquires form it is not the fundamental nature of existence, it is just the result of its workings.
indeed, it is just a language where in its parts it can be broken down yet this is not how it is meant to be seen - if i may, when we arrive at the higher understanding of things is it not so that all descriptions fail?!
a summary of my understanding of life the universe and everything so far.
life:
primarily life is universal and is not of absolutely any given being entity nor aspect thereof, it is neither god/goddess/s or us. our self-centric perspective is secondary to the case, ultimately all cyclic entities and their elements are of the one. by the eternal return - the process of all things going back to their original state - the aspectations of existence [parts/natures] are temporary and must go back to their original state.
however, there are many things which are more than their apparent or otherwise transient state. these belong to the eternal element the permanent nature of existence, yet nothing is set in stone. what is temporary also belongs to the eternal and vice versa, it is only by a three-fold description - of being ‘either-neither-and-both’ all at once - that they may be perceived.
the animus [term originally meant in the greek context, then redefined as the animating principle {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animus_%28concept%29}]
we may imagine life the universal single entity as being like an ocean and all living beings arise without effort therein. it is a ‘force’ which has an internal principle of ‘self generation’, wherever it can become it shall, in other words if there is a form it can reside in then it will automatically ‘enter’ it. however, as all things belong to this living universe and eternity, the ‘it’ of which the life enters belong to the same original thing and may be seen as different versions of that.
let us take the example of yeast, you add water to it and it is alive according to our ordinary definitions of life. yet it is alive even when it is not animated, thus to explain how this can be then here we enter further principles of universal life; that of the ‘animus’. this is a name given to that force which must become, and which is inherent within the entity of life. we may define it as ‘passive’ and ‘active’, the passive element is where a life-form which has already arisen from the primary state [the ocean] becomes duel synchronous with that state as if held in suspended animation. yet the two states although the same in context are not the same as actual, in other words the passive animus is life mimicking the original state. the active animus is present within both the passive animus and the original universal entity of life, it is the very drive by which things become manifest. so when you give water to the yeast it may then become animated and ‘alive’ once more. here then we may see how life will happen where ever it can given the correct conditions.
complex life and the eternal entity
our yeast as everything else has an eternal nature, this is because the eternal return is two-fold - it mirrors existence, you have the original universal primary state coupled with the reflection of all given individualised states. in order to have cycles we must have a returning state of entity and it is this eternal potentiality by which all evolved life are formed. to explain further let us imagine it in simple forms; a circle will always be arrived at, you can end the universe and all things then as soon as a new universe is manifest then you will have circles, this is because it is a simple and primary form that will always happen. this does not mean that you will always have say lions and tigers in any given evolution of a universe, but it does mean that evolution will become increasingly dextrous and its forms will follow suit. thus there will always be a series of forms similar to lions and tigers and indeed humans as an ultimate evolutionary example. this however is not a complete description of the eternal version...
the universe ...and everything
the universe is also a single entity. as time is a ‘universal relativistic moment’ [the past and future don’t exist] it may be so that existence repeats itself endlessly and cyclically, without having to be infinite, this may mean that there is an end state that is the same as the beginning state. irrespective of this that end-state is present throughout and is the basis of eternity. in order to arrive at ‘the eternal version’, let us imagine that there was a purely physical universe to begin with, every form it took formed an imprint upon the aether [the universal essence of all things]. when the next universe arose then when it draws from the life ocean it also draws from the imprint of past events natures principles and forms, this would be the ‘eternal pool’ - the die by which things are cast. let us then imagine that the first universes were very simple in form and became increasingly complex with each evolution, as this would make sense considering that there would not be much potential to go by primarily.
we may now after building this in our minds, take a leap and say that all the imprints that will ever be made in all universes are within the aether as it exists outside of time. couple this with infinite potential - due to the fact that infinity is the ultimate primary state. now we can see that there always existed the imprint of every possible occurrence and this would include everything you are as an holistic entity [or whole being], whereby we are manifest from the eternal ocean of life and mirroring the universe, we and all forms potentially have endless cycles. this is like a hand-in-glove thing, where the universe does not die it simply returns to its basic form and then re-evolves, we like the yeast belong to the three-fold nature of existence. it is entirely possible that we could be put in some kind of stasis then brought back to life - so to say. however our vehicle of existing - the human form - is limited, when it can no longer accommodate our eternal form then we return to the great ocean of life and are reformed in the aether, thence our eternal version is returned in its next incarnation. it is so that there is an evolution of life-forms both physically and in terms of the living entity of the eternal version [you], within in us are every kind of incarnation of all the evolutions of all universes.
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here’s a selection of replies from another forum - just so we don’t go down the same road.
i am aware of the critisisms, it is just my writing style and as i said it is a summary."the platonic theory has been critisized since its very begining first by Aristotle and then by others as well"
in the main ‘life’ is a vague term like mind, it is difficult to say anything other than it is. i do think - and this is the fundamental nature of the thread meaning - that existence is a single entity thus life and mind and anything else are both in part and entire, ultimately belonging to something that is everything and thus can be defined by no given example..."In your theory the "life" is not defined .It is not enough at all to say it is eternal or has it’s place in the aether ,but must be said what it is by essence?"
for instance: i would define infinity as incomparative, the full meaning of which is that it cannot be defined as infinity, thence the term becomes only a description. similarly many of our current scientific descriptions may be thought of in a similar context i.e. gravity momentum and the forces etc. are ‘the entity’ being worked upon as if it is a lump of clay being given shape and even that which shapes it is part of that same thing.
life-forms belong to ‘life’ which is an abstract notion relating to the universal entity [it is everything], as this can be anything it has an infinite essence of universal natures. they are maintained by this core which is without limit - if we were to say the opposite; that everything is limited and there is no infinity, then we are always left with ‘what is beyond all limits’?"If it is, how do they continue existing ? What maintains their existance so that they won’t change into disorderly chaos or dissolve into the aether?"
"Do they exist completely without matter for eternity or not?"
yes and no [it = either neither and both]. energy occurs when the universal entity acquires form it is not the fundamental nature of existence, it is just the result of its workings.
by pure observation it is impossible to say that there is not a function of transformation that is generally of a similar nature to this animus, i simply used that term as a description of the activating factor. this is a fundamental nature of existence by whatever given name one wishes to give it, i like to keep such idea open as any rigidity of the concept seams to take aways the true universal nature of these things. this is not manifested it is that by which things are manifest where energy and perhaps aether are the body of that." ‘Animus’ is also not defined . What makes/drives this force happen at all?"
sure, i was hoping that what i was saying was in accordance with this fact, you are thinking of life as the forms, where i am thinking of those as resultant of or a universal expression of ‘life’ the entity. perhaps we could omit the term ‘life’ altogether as it is perhaps only an expression of the greater entity, yet i find that if we choose not to use the term then we loose the thread of meaning in our minds, we just have to remember that such words are in reference to a greater more unexplainable meaning."The yeast has life forms in itself which multiply when added water .It does not create others than the ones that have existed before that which are simply multiplied"
"For reference, I myself use the Platonic myths as the better explanation of many things"
indeed, it is just a language where in its parts it can be broken down yet this is not how it is meant to be seen - if i may, when we arrive at the higher understanding of things is it not so that all descriptions fail?!