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I think a forum is a lousy way to judge character.
Organized Atheism (And so it begins...)
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I think a forum is a lousy way to judge character.
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maybe you should set yourself up as a therapist..think you got the makings
What seems to be your problem nativeastral?
Hmmmm...
Yes...
Go on...
Everywhere I look I am reminded of the mirror...
and that parable about the man walking between one cityh and the next...
all quite interesting how the really powerful concepts repeat everywhere...
or is that my perception of others perceptions.
and that parable about the man walking between one cityh and the next...
all quite interesting how the really powerful concepts repeat everywhere...
or is that my perception of others perceptions.
nativeastral
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What seems to be your problem nativeastral?
Hmmmm...
Yes...
Go on...
sorry wrong thread different therapist [or other way around
]
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Sort of my point... it is not for my self to say what category I fall in. So why do you tempt me?
That was a part of my sentence. What do you think about the person who wrote that?
Good point. What do you think of this practice of moderators judging character by mere words?citizenzen said:
I hear that Jesus walked between a few cities, but I don't think he was so vain as to look at himself in the mirror and judge or glorify his own character. Do you?
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"Tempt" you to do what?
But it is for you to say what category others fall in?
Yes, I left out the part where you said the majority of the people on this forum are self-righteous and self centered (psychos).
I asked you first.
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You ask me to judge my own character, as I provided you with examples that a person makes a horrid judge of their own character.
Yes. The alleged comedian was not funny, and he had a problem with being self centered.
Are you a self-righteous and self centered psycho?
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Yep
Only if he blinds himself so that he can retain a hope that he is not self-centered and self-righteous (as you apparently do). Obviously, you seem to hope that you are part of some (imagined) minority which is not self-righteous and self-centered.
You said the "majority" on this forum is that way. Basically, you passed a judgment on others but when questioned, you refused to pass the same judgment on yourself. For yourself, you reserve a hope. But as for others, you seem to be pretty sure they are psychos.
Yes, I am sure he had that problem... unlike you... rite?
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Then shame on you for being that. Do unto others as you would that they do unto you.Yep
False. To commit a crime like that is a choice, and a choice that bears responsibility. Whether to behave that way is a choice. What to do with someone's judgment is a choice. You first judged her a psycho, and judged that nobody here is that psycho. You suggest that she can not change, whereas I believe that someone like that can. If I didn't believe that people could change, then I would not judge and say anything about it, because then it would be a waste of time. I don't waste time trying to inform a computer that it is broke. It is you who would give her no hope, suggesting that she is miswired and cannot change. Judging her character is giving her an opportunity, not taking anything away from her. It still remains a choice. The hope is this: people can change.
He is a gambler addict who has gone into casinos to try to win for himself at the expense of others... and he has lost quite a bit as a result of that. Gambling in that way is extremely selfish whether I do it, or he does it, or you do it. To me his jokes were condescending and I found no humor in them. Not a big deal, but when he judged himself a comedian then I saw it as another aspect of his error.
If you would like to meet my family, friends or enemies, then I'd be happy to introduce you. They should be a much better judge of my character than I can ever be. Recognizing that fact does not mean that I have not comitted any sins... it means that if I am to be loving to them then I would best seek their input rather than be self-righteous in defining my 'love' like the gal who you called psycho.
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... err dude, she was a fictional character in a Stephen King movie who decided to kidnap and torture a person.... And you're saying the "majority" of people here are like that? (lol)
As for the rest of your post, all you are trying to do is defend your (rather comical) condemnations, which only prove your own self-righteousness... Good job.
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I wonder if you truly think I am self-righteous, and if so I'd like to know why. You call my judgment a condemnation, and then claim that this somehow served as proof to you that I am self-righteous. Thank you for your judgment. What exactly is a condemnation: Do you think a condemnation condemns a person or a portion of a person's life? As that fictional character hobbled the man, she condemned the man from walking. How precisely do you think I have condemned someone with mere words? Have I ever said, "Ban him"... and someone mindlessly banned someone?!... err dude, she was a fictional character in a Stephen King movie who decided to kidnap and torture a person.... And you're saying the "majority" of people here are like that? (lol)
As for the rest of your post, all you are trying to do is defend your (rather comical) condemnations, which only prove your own self-righteousness... Good job.
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I suggest that you look up the definition of the word "condemn". Try this: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/condemn Compare the definition with what you did: equated the character of most people here (who you have never met) with the character of a fictional kidnapper and torture artist in a Stephen King movie.
All human beings are self-righteous and self-centered to some extent. Especially the ones who do not acknowledge this, and are quick to cast the first stone.
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So now you say everyone... all human beings... are self-righteous and self-centered like the two examples that I provided. Whereas, I only said the majority.
Many people have the words condemn and judge interchanged at their convenience... especially governments. The KJV and NIV have many of them interchanged from the Greek. I cast words here, not stones. A thrown stone will condemn. A thrown word will not condemn. You have also casted words. I suggest that you read the example where Jesus used words to keep people from throwing stones. Words, to help prevent the people from throwing stones. Judgment, to help prevent a true condemning.
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(lol)
Was there ever a point where I said anything to the contrary? (it is clearly stated in my last post).
What I disagreed with was your equivalence of these things with psychotic sociopathic behavior that was embodied by a fictional Stephen King character.
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Like I said: I would say that either the self-proclaimed comedian is similarly psycho, or that the lady is not nearly as psycho as you may wish to think. I only used the word 'psycho' because you did. Though crimes may be different, it is a matter of how to judge and love others.
For judging and proclaiming that you think I am also self-righteous or self-centered, I would NOT say that you have condemned me. Though your reasoning is suspect to me, I suggest that external judgment is good. But if you break my ankles, ban me, or otherwise punish me, then you have condemned me. I'd consider that bad. For example I met Tao, who was condemned for a time from posting here. As I understand it, it was merely due to an argument with you. Hopefully you spoke against him being banned. I'd personally be upset if someone I knew was banned merely for having words with me.
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And you just took Tao's word for it, yea?
You think people get banned just for having arguments?
(If that were true wouldn't I be banned as well?)
Dude... there is a big difference between torture and kidnap (which makes a person a sociopath) and being self-righteous and self-centered. Thats all I was trying to say.
And I suggested that internal judgment is better (though few dare to be honest with themselves). But, to each his own...
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ciberpy
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No, I did not merely take anyone's word for anything... a moderator or two did. I am merely helping identify the difference between judging and condemning, between judging a house and condemning a house, between placing words and taking away a voice, between loving content and loving a person.
One person's heaven is another person's hell.
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really?
.. well, in that case, I'll just stop posting on this forum.
Since I don't want to be the source of any... complications...
I wish I could say it was nice chatting with you ciberpy, but honestly, I had no idea what the hell you were on about most of the time (lol). But I guess that was fun too... Sayonara amigo