I would like the address the function and purpose of gods armies. Personally I believe they have the powers of heaven. That they literally can produce light that is love light, compassion ect and that these are the weapons of the angels.
Heavenly Armies function and purpose
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Gods armies is a poor way to term it, their purpose and function is to bring you home.
You can call that home heaven if you'd like, but it is just a word, look within and see if you have ever been away. There is such suffering in the world, all because people want to justify their separation, how else but through violence?
So many live of the periphery of life, Gods armies collapse all radius' so the circumference cannot exist. The center is God, is heaven, is moksha, is nirvana, whatsoever else you want to call it, it is home.
You can call that home heaven if you'd like, but it is just a word, look within and see if you have ever been away. There is such suffering in the world, all because people want to justify their separation, how else but through violence?
So many live of the periphery of life, Gods armies collapse all radius' so the circumference cannot exist. The center is God, is heaven, is moksha, is nirvana, whatsoever else you want to call it, it is home.
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It is funny that you debate God, yet believe in Lucifer.
Lucifer means the Bringer of Light, that is God. Of course, he has gotten a bad rap in the Abrahamic Faiths, but it is because they have clung to a name... God is nameless, as are each of us in our being. We answer to a name, but it is foolish to say we are that.
God is the Higher Self Luciferians talk about, and the path to realization is the same, you must dissolve the Lower Self and the Higher Self arises of its own accord from the ashes - as a Phoenix.
Please do not engage in such petty arguments, it is only conceptually that they are different, in truth all fingers point to the same moon. They differ only in your mind, and that is the Lower Self. The Higher Self is universal consciousness, and universal consciousness - unexperienceable for humans, so called unconsciousness when encountered by us - is exactly what is meant by anyone who has found God.
Of course, believers will disagree, they have some very strange concepts and imaginings about God. It is only different when you do not know, though. In fact it is only ignorance which differentiates at all...
All differentiation takes us away from oneness.
Luciferian prophecy says its a female. Lucifel is the male . Venus is a goddess not a god and lucifer is said to be venus. Its about salvation of fallen angels and just like human beings have mary magdalene prophecies fallen angels have lucifer prophecies. The concept that its male is a human concept not an angelic one.
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That light which is brought IS the light of oneness.
In oneness, only God is, this is what is meant by "God is one".
This is your true nature, your true self. I agree with the Luciferians, God is not other, cannot be. What is the point of religion if not discovering that oneness within, that light?
What that oneness is called doesn't matter, although wars have been fought over what name to call it. What matters is how to come back to it...
This is all I am interested in, what else is important?
In oneness, only God is, this is what is meant by "God is one".
This is your true nature, your true self. I agree with the Luciferians, God is not other, cannot be. What is the point of religion if not discovering that oneness within, that light?
What that oneness is called doesn't matter, although wars have been fought over what name to call it. What matters is how to come back to it...
This is all I am interested in, what else is important?
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If it is female or male, it is not truth.
ALL humans are fallen angels until they rediscover what they are, until they come home.
It is strange you seem obsessed with what is male or female in the spiritual realm, but gender is entirely a peripheral thing. To enter into what you have called heaven, this is such a duality which must be dropped.
Duality is never dropped. Ever see the yinyang symbol? Thats IT. Its two who are also one but also three as well. If you were to try, its impossible, to join totally with your opposite you both would die. Life is a very complex being consisting of two who are also one . Angelic beings are more of a combination of male and female, more complex in anatomy , but at the same time each half is actually more male or female than more simple anatomies. Hard concept to grasp. So as you can see you can never drop duality but only join with your opposite in oneness but remain two. Otherwise its death and total destruction of the universe.
Documented accounts throughout time proves there is a god.
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Often, the first distinction in metaphysics is given female characteristics, the Hindu's call it the Divine Mother, and the Christians represent it with Mary.
It is also true that you must become feminine to encounter the divine, in that you must surrender and allow, not go aggressively and attack. You have to become very sensitive, you have to come through the heart rather than mind. It is strange actually that most prophets are male, but it also makes sense, for still there is the inclination to aggressively share sometimes.
Still though, the Mother has arisen from something. Something contains the Mother and Father, has manifested both. The Son is their offspring, but what is the Son's grandparent, so to speak?
It is consciousness itself, that which is the nature of awareness.
It is also true that you must become feminine to encounter the divine, in that you must surrender and allow, not go aggressively and attack. You have to become very sensitive, you have to come through the heart rather than mind. It is strange actually that most prophets are male, but it also makes sense, for still there is the inclination to aggressively share sometimes.
Still though, the Mother has arisen from something. Something contains the Mother and Father, has manifested both. The Son is their offspring, but what is the Son's grandparent, so to speak?
It is consciousness itself, that which is the nature of awareness.
Males have a gentle nature but its still a masculine nature. People label it as feminine which I believe is wrong. Just because its gentle doesnt mean its feminine. Females are the feminine counterparts which is why the bodies are the way they are as well.
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Ya know, I consider you somewhat intelligent here, but you don't listen, Ihave clearly stated ,over and over, my views on Lucifer . . . pay attention this time
Lucifer is a Principle, a Philosophy, an archetype.
I no more believe in a Fallen Angel Lucifer than I do the tooth fairy
Try archeia. As I said Lucifer isnt male Lucifel is the Archangel. Anyone naming some guy lucifer , well its a big lie.Ya know, I consider you somewhat intelligent here, but you don't listen, Ihave clearly stated ,over and over, my views on Lucifer . . . pay attention this time
Lucifer is a Principle, a Philosophy, an archetype.
I no more believe in a Fallen Angel Lucifer than I do the tooth fairy
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This is just amazing . . . both of you telling ME about Luciferianism, priceless.
You are both so wrong, and so incorrect with your understanding it's laughable.
I am not wrong. The fallen angels have their own prophecies and lucifer in them is female. Lucifel is the male.
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You send me to some fluffy Light Workers website? Are you kidding? THIS is your evidence and information . . . wow.
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Why is the Ying Yang symbol a whole circle? Why are the opposites exactly half and within the symbol? It is because truth contains all opposites, yet is above them all. Do not fight the opposites, see they are actually complimentary - this is the significance of the dots, even in light there is darkness as a shadow, and in darkness light is there as a shadow... they cannot exist without each other.
Anatomy of an angel is not different from that of a human, every human being is a potential angel. I have merged the opposites, I have transcended duality, so how can you tell me it is impossible? If you called me an angel, you would not be wrong, although certainly I do not comply with the more modern myths about them.
You are right though, it is a death, it is something of a destruction. It is not literal, and the same is meant by the crucifixion of Christ. There is a resurrection though, God is now present in you. I also feel existence itself is working towards this, and that it will mean the destruction of the physical realm as we perceive it. This is perfectly good, what we are is beyond even existence and non-existence, it simply is.
"I am that I am"
Are you talking about some game? Are you aware the catholic church has plates that are way way older than any game that has lucifel and lucifer on the plates? So no its not some fluffy light workers.
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Ya know, I consider you somewhat intelligent here, but you don't listen, Ihave clearly stated ,over and over, my views on Lucifer . . . pay attention this time
Lucifer is a Principle, a Philosophy, an archetype.
I no more believe in a Fallen Angel Lucifer than I do the tooth fairy
You have not understood me, either.
What is the nature of that Principle? You like to argue, but the whole point of Lucifer is that we can experience a certain light, and Luciferianism is about finding that light. It is perfectly good, for this is the point of all religions.
What I do not approve of with you is that you seem often to attempt to get a rise out of people through this. Lucifer is not fallen at all, it is the very nature of how the human can rise back to angel. Here, human is the Lower Self, and angel is the Higher Self.
I also do not believe in anything, especially not superstitions and make believe characters, but these things have been invented for a reason, these stories serve a purpose. What use is belief when you know? All beliefs are simply foolish, childish - you make a good analogy with the tooth fairy, it is the same. Yet, something true is pointed at through all the nonsense that has become common misconception, find that.
All paths share that purpose, constantly trying to debate whether this is the correct path is irrelevant, all paths are correct because truth walks them all. You only need to stop and realize you are already that which you are looking for, embrace it and dissolve into it. The paths just provide scenery while you become comfortable with this, every path is utterly irrelevant of itself.
That Principle is within, but if your mind continues differentiating, if it keeps identifying with the path and is distracted by the scenery, you will simply remain lost. Stop being antagonistic, it only means you are fueling your ego, when the ego burns completely, when it is not more there... only then is the Higher Self realized.
You are God, how can you not believe in God?
It simply shows you remain ignorant.
Rise back to angel? There are differences between angels and human beings. Human beings will never be angels. They are in the image of. Angels really do have wings, human beings never will have wings. Angels are much bigger and consist of much more light than human beings do. Human beings will never be that big nor consist of that much light. Angels hearts are in the middle , human beings hearts will never be in the middle. These are the differences. The concept that angels and the heavenly universe doesnt exist is false. So as you can see each has its own place, nature, kind ect where it belongs. Each of us has a number in our inner most unbreakable unchangable place that shows where we belong this has to do with our resurrected bodies and what kind we are human or angel. The concept that human beings can become angel is a false one. The ones that incarnated into the human egg over the years were all heavenly beings, angelic.