I know what I am....I am love at the center of what I really am.....arent we all.
Ultimate truth = God
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I know what I am....I am love at the center of what I really am.....arent we all.
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I know what love is. Its an emotion that is also a mind. Spirit and Soul. You can feel it in your heart and head and radiates throughout your whole body when activated.
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Lunitik
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It seems it is, for you say you are love at the center of what you really are... it means you still identify with the shell. Soul is as the egg white, at the center is God, the spirit, Jesus' yoke is naught but this.
God is love, can you be something else?
Yet you say this is at the center of what you are, no, it is what you are.
There cannot be two spirits, holy means whole, if there are two then each is half - Jesus says to accept the Holy Spirit, to give up your will for separation is his whole message.
When you drop yourself and your concepts, God is there smiling.
Who are you?
God is love, can you be something else?
Yet you say this is at the center of what you are, no, it is what you are.
There cannot be two spirits, holy means whole, if there are two then each is half - Jesus says to accept the Holy Spirit, to give up your will for separation is his whole message.
When you drop yourself and your concepts, God is there smiling.
Who are you?
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Lunitik
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Love is the merging of two into one.
You have not realized the one who observes emotions, that observes thoughts... who is that one? What is its nature?
This is what is meant when Jesus says God is love, but few people ever encounter this love.
What most people call love is more like infatuation, passionate obsession. This is not what love is at all, will you look for its truth within?
Well true but o ther things come from love...compassion for instance. Its not what you are as your highest biggest self but it comes from it.
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Lunitik
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All words can only be pointers, the truth of God is not actually love, for love is the opposite of hate. Saying "God is love" is merely a close approximation which I have asked you not to accept.
Look within, drop all your ideas about yourself and the world, merge all the opposites one by one until nothing remains. Now simply look at what is left, what is it? This is what I mean by love, but no words can ever say it because all words suggest something which is known in mind. This place cannot be described to anyone that doesn't know it themselves, and when they do there is no need.
It is like describing light to a blind man, will any information help him know light? It will remain a theory, but the theory is not good enough, he is still clueless to the actuality of light.
Simply stop and with all the energy you can muster go deeply into yourself, offer yourself completely to God with no hesitation at all, do not stop until you find it. This is what is required, if you cannot do this you will never encounter truth.
I really do know what love is in every aspect of the word. The most center love what we ultimately our is with our own opposite. That is the highest love believe it or not. Love for others comes from that like compassion comes from love.
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Lunitik
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You identify with manifest extreme - in this case female.
Your opposite is within you, for you contain the male as well.
This is the eternal marriage, this is the encounter with truth, for as Jesus said:
"when you make the two one,
and when you make the inner as the outer
and the outer as the inner, and the above as the below, and
When you make the male and the female into a single one,
so that the male will not be male and the female not be female,
then shall you enter the kingdom."
This is speaking of an internal happening, but you are taking it as something physical it seems. He merely implores you to drop your identifications, to see that all the opposites are contained in you. Now you are whole, and only the individual can enter the Kingdom - only the one who is undivided, whole. Do not insist you are half, for then you will always long for fulfillment. Fulfillment is in the Holy Spirit - the Whole Breath if you want to use direct translation, or One Life if you want to say the most meaningful ramification.
Thats only because two are one complete being not because one is one consisting of male and female. One body will never be one complete being and neither is one spirit. Its a very complex being that we are consisting of two halves that are literally ONE as well as being two and also three as well. This is the nature and function of an infinite being. Anything else is death not infinite life.
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Lunitik
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By inner and outer is meant your separation from the world.
By above and below is meant heaven and earth, for they are not two places, but rather two states of being.
This world consists of the play of opposites, male and female is the base of it all, the positive and negative which comes together to create life.
Understand this play, and find out the source of it, then you can transcend.
That transcendence is the Kingdom of God.
By above and below is meant heaven and earth, for they are not two places, but rather two states of being.
This world consists of the play of opposites, male and female is the base of it all, the positive and negative which comes together to create life.
Understand this play, and find out the source of it, then you can transcend.
That transcendence is the Kingdom of God.
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Lunitik
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No, the two represents duality, the one represents non-duality.
You are fixed in duality, this is why I know you do not actually know what you are or what love is - for these are not distinct.
Of course, it looks like death to you what I say, yet Jesus himself has said you must hate your own life. The meaning is the same - do not cling to your separation, it is false. Only when you find the one within is there true life, otherwise you are just avoiding death, you are basically fear oriented and thus remain just surviving.
The purpose of life is not to survive, it is to enjoy the experience of living.
How can you enjoy living when the fear of death persists?
By above and below I was talking about realms, however with sealing which are merging of the realms the creation takes place and union. There is white light and black light which made golden light. Then golden light with black overtones and golden light with white overtones that made platinum light which is the highest or center self. The unbreakable unchangeable element. Within the golden lotus there is a platinum jewel and the sparkles or locks on it are platinum and can only be opened by ones own true opposite. The lotus is the body. THe opening is the marriage stuff.
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Yes, the two represents One-ness, the one represents duality-ness.
I can see it's inescapable paradym.
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"What is night for all beings is the time of awakening for the self-controlled; and the time of awakening for all beings is night for the introspective sage."
---(can everyone guess this citation's source?)
I agree with you on the one representing duality-ness and two representing oneness. That makes perfect sense. Dont forget about the threeness as well. All these things make up the complexness of what we are as infinite beings.
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You are half right...
The two points towards the one, when you can see their interplay.
The one does not represent duality though, it manifests it so that it may experience its own being. It is like an eye, you cannot look upon it without the mirror, such is the case for Brahman, He cannot look at himself directly, he must manifest beings and look through them.
The void cannot represent anything, and by oneness the void is intended. Indeed, the void is the very present which all else points to.
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The three is such as this:
Beloved ; Lover ; Love
We can align this to the trinity:
Father ; Son ; Holy Spirit
When the object and subject are no more there, only the one exists. Jesus goes on glorifying the father, he is the lover and the Father is the beloved. When they are merged, the Holy Spirit descends as a dove.
God is realized in that state of oneness.
My comments on angelic beings explain some things. Angelic beings are more of a combination of the male and female in spirit and body but yet each still has an opposite so the theory of one being one is totally wrong. It always manifests as two halfs one male and one female that even though are two are also one as well as well as being three. As I said this is the nature and function of all infinite life. Anything else is mortal life and those processes lead towards death if you have not noticed.
I believe the yinyang is really half a symbol but the complete symbol has 4 eyes
