Is freewill real or just something we invented it ?

Are you here for short time and God planned it ? perhaps you say that you can't spent a whole life and wonder and it was something small or simple that he sent you for that. Yes it is the purpose God sent you and he sent each and every human for a plan and a purpose.

And even though it could be so small as that and you don't know it. He can do that and told that little one he only wantd him to be born and be baptizesd. He enjoy he's life and when the end time comes he will be showed his mission and eh will be showed God planned him. Yes !
 
Another persons life is that God sent him for a special time a special hour and minute he was sent to save some person's life and he was going to have a car and while he was driving he picked him and unknowingly he took him to the airport. If it wasn't for him he would of arrived alte he woulnd't of gotten the job he was going to get and he continue he's life this are small things but guess what it was God who planned it. Oooh you want an answer but you don't decide you want to know you don't know because you don't decide God decides and even if it offends he knows better.

He chose him to do that some of you say that's not fair I work to hard and spent all my life and i didn't know why i'm here and perhaps God wanted it so simple. It is hard we don't know were thrown here blind and not knowing our purpose of why he sent us here. He put tests and we pass them and we failed them. Perhaps that's the hardest thing your life is not what you want it and worst you don't know your life.

Then their is the man who worked for 50 years of his life and he sweated and bleed to put food on the table. He ask why is he here and he baptized and the hardest thing he died. Later his son worked on a book and thanks to his sufferment his book is manual for future doctors to learn surgery and the son became a doctor thanks to his father. Later God told his father in the end times he sent him for that ! Those are the decisions and the destiny of us humans we don't know and God send us not knowing what his plan was and why he sent us.
 
But after so much sufferment some of us know why he sent us to give gesture that some of us know our purpose and we can change it and be doctors or be pastors or write song that millions would like ? It is unfair and life is life like a famous song says it.

Do not feel bad you don't know perhaps you don't know other have purpose and accomplsih because they sacrifice more than you. And God has a bigger plan and he amkes them go thru more toguh times than you. Better don't ask if you don't want and live a simple life better. You can decide just remember if you want to pray and he will give to you. Pray and he will give it to you because he did gave a mission in this world and you don't know if you want to change your life go tell him if don't. Don't give excuses in your life that your afraid you wanted your life and got what you wanted it is not God's fault he always gives you chance maybe you don't know it he gave it to you. more to come and your gonna like it in the end.
 
Is part of the human conduct to lie and what makes them lie is that they don't know and forgot that. But lying is a solution and here humana analyze that atheist lie becasue they prefer it that way. Life is easy and if you put santa and the tootfairy it's okay to lie but when lying changes you from the good person when you were a child and becomea liar all your life you don't know how to find the truth. lying can be good like abraham has done it can be good when your in alife and death situation.

What is the promblem the whole world lies people and you see fake news, fake movies, and fake people everywhere how to know the real things life about markeeting and commerce. To know when real building was struck by a plane or war is already happening in a land unknown. You don't know but God can help you steer in this darkness and help in your life find solutions and truth that will make you continue and keep you economy home. it's not easy.
 
But here is the question Muhammad Isa are you part of the lie of the world or part of the truth of God. Do you lie to save one in your life or similiar situation. Don't tell ;D not going to put you in a tight spot but do lies live daily in your life you don't like ?

Is it okay for humanity to lie and humans need to lie to get their piece of bread ? Will do good if you take that bread away from them and report them to the police ?

Perhaps put things God's hand and let them decide thier own fate even though it looks cruel ti will all end and everyone will face judgement to God all mighty.
 
I think also people get confused about what we are able to choose and what we aren't.

As @Cino said much earlier in this thread, we cannot choose to stop breathing, at some point a reflex takes over.

Sometimes people talk about "choosing to believe" certain things -- which we can't really fully choose what we believe.

We can give certain ideas the benefit of the doubt or hope they are true, but we cannot convince ourselves of things we are truly not convinced of (example, if I told the forum that I was over 200 years old, nobody could just truly believe it by choice. It would make sense to nobody)

But then there are some who think our actions are not free. That we could not do otherwise.

I think it is common sense that we cannot entirely choose things like beliefs and feelings, though we can influence them. We can and do choose our actions however.

Are our actions influenced by our feelings and beliefs? Of course. But we still can usually pick from amongst several options that are physically possible in almost any given situation.
 
This the talk that involves consciousness and instinct and sub-consciousness. Is it human need to breath and think without thinking ? Is it needed that our animal behavior decides for us ?

Or still we humans are animals needed to eat, breath and live without it we die physically and what we say with words we cannot do it with the body because we are carnal and spirit, we are body and soul. We cannot move like we do and niether do as we say because we are limited and we have limited freewill ! Here humans can do one thing is do that of the body and do things with action or better said with works. Our works gives us life and the bible said faith and works are together and needed. One is more important it is faith. But we have to divide correctly that category I know how but this is the important one.

We can choose what our body does but when the body needs to eat, sleep, and breath it can take a will of it's own and it worst be sin. Remember the great point of us humans is that God did not want us to be like this he did not want the body to sin. He wanted us to do things spiritually not do anything of death or get sick. He wanted us to do things spiritually like in heaven.

are we limited ? Yes. But here what we talk will reveals us the other side of the coin and realize that their are asnwer we can do and we can do things spiritually like God wants to and body decides but also the soul decides. And people what are things that spiritually we can do that God wants and our soul our spirit can do ? What are those things ? Love, faith, and hope.
 
This is the hard things people and veteran christians like me know that those things are beyond the body and work and are what spirit of man his soul can do that God wanted us to do to worship him and to love thy neighbor and our God and it is what we can do to complete the law and ten commandments and even we cannot complete it perfect. Remeber it is Jesus who does.

We go with a question why do we have bodies ? Why in the first place ? Why is it important and it is part of what God made man and his purpose ? Goingt o to put the verses later but God made man and his body to be a temple. This is why the law of Moses forbids putting tattos on your body. That is the purpose of our body it is not meant to kill or build sckyscrapers. You can do that but God's purpose since the beggining is one thing.

And Jesus said to make God's will in heaven like on earth ! He said in a prayer in Matthew to be his will and if you have read what I posted about the commands and what is a command ? You will find everything God has said is a law and more important in the bible it is still hard for Judaism they have many interpretation on when God was talking to Israel, when he was talking to his prophets and when he was talking to kings. God everything he talks is perfect and told them exactly what to do but remember thruout history the flood, the destruction of the second temple, and the dark age of the roman empire. Humanity has lost the information God gave and humans change their way of talk and today people talk in another way and not how God told people in the time of Israel for some it bothers people.
 
Because what they say is not how we speak today in english, the bible was not written in english it was written in hebrew in the old testament and the new testament was written in greek. Still to explain the whole bible and be sure in hebrew that when God said things not all of it was said to you. It is important we remember those things because history affects us and how we talk has changed. But still with faith and love and truth. We can find what God said and we will discover all the secrets he says and what we must do to make his will come true and save people in faith and salvation it is hard and have to say this because it is important.

The body people is temple of the lord and God gave it to you so you can what purpose he sent us here ? What is the purpose of us people ? Remember the simple one is that we are God's witness that is why he sent us here. Because of the battle of good and evil and God's war against Satan he sent us here so we witness he miracles and deeds and when we die and judgement comes the lord will bring us to the stand and the devil will acusse us and Jesus our lawyer and defender he will save us and because we baptized we are free from accusation and we did he's will when we were alive and did his plan when we were alive. The witness is important and part of that is that we are to preach is word to the whole world and how do we do that ? By speaking about his testimony and being witness and giving testimony is also telling everyone what he said and God appointed a prophet to do that and that is their purpose. God not only told one to do the Job but guess how many but all of Israel to do it. And to do his testimony also singing is part of it.


That is purpose of the body to be a temple and not desecrate it but to move to one place and another and preach his word . God did not want man-made temples because they can be destroyed and when the second temple was destroyed God was mad and enraged. God did not David temple or Solomon because tent in the desert was humble and can be moved. But the Second Temple had inscriptions and symbols on made the walls and they were holy and when Babylon destroyed it the consecrated and symbols were destroyed and all of that is important. Perhaps you don't know and it is a good thing I tell ya. That is why the body is a temple that you can move and he wanted it to move all over the world and preach the gospel !
 
That is the importance of the bible that is why the body of man and woman is holy and we were to use our mouths and words to glorify God and preach the word. That's why we have a body that is our purpose you can workout, build with your hands, and do material things like painting but he did not give you that in the beggining. He wanted you to do one thing that is important as preaching and that is singing. The lord wanted you to sing in the beggining if it was not for the devil to try destroy God's original plan we all be on earth all of us singing and doing what in heaven they do. Sing " Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh Adonai Tzevaot " and sing for ever that is one of the few songs we know they sing in heaven. All this is important gold of scripture people and God's plan was for man not to sin and when we know we can change our life and body to do what he still wanted is what we must do !

This is not easy because when you find out what he wanted we realize their is an instinct we all have to survive and an animal we all have to change and be man of God or woman of God. And it is sometimes needed to conquer yourself and rebuke the world and be the person God wants you to be the person of the world but a person of the time of God's people when Israel worship God and loved him when in the times in the ancient days Israel had God's presence in the temple and they did good. God wants you to be his people and be fighting people that want to do good in your heart and be like Adam and Eve their pure form of love and innocence. How ? That is very hard. This where many of you don't know what i'm talking about and it is important and here is what God's love and tests he gives you to find that love and path is what he wants.

This is hard but it is what God wants and he wants you to be a child again and get that love and power to be his people again and be against the world. And be his people this is the important thing. He wants you to love again !

What is to love again ? He wants you to go back and be a child and from a child to do everything as a child not to be a man of this world but this is the important thing. To love like child and have faith in him like a child ? This baffles and how because in this world they teach you to be like what the world wants you to be ! A person of money, sin, and to person that obeys and does not questions the system ! This is very important and the bible does it say that we are his children ? Does the bible say to be child ?

Yes it does ! Jesus said it and many times in the new testament and to his disciples said it to be like children.

Matthew 18:1-3: Jesus tells the disciples that they must change and become like children to enter the kingdom of heaven

  • Matthew 19:14: Jesus says, "Let the little children"

  • Mark 10:14–15: Jesus says that anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.
    Jesus did tell us that and it is necessary. To love again.
 
is it that we go thru that, can we go and do something important and hard to do ? That we find that love and be a child again as Jesus says can we find those things. That is the path that gives us light and we can become those those adults that from that time of the ancient times become his people in Israel and be the people of God he wants ? Yes it is that path for us to be those Israelites that were in his time of them that were faithful and will do everything in this world to make his kingdom possible. To his Kingdome Come. It is those things that God reveals to his people only his people know to be those people of those times.

Why many people don't know those things because guess what they are not his people and his people will obey his commandments and will do more for him. And do that mission he did give you when you were in heaven to be here and to do his plan. This is too much and it is then you have promblem is you ! That you don't know what is that, you don't know God's plan and your are not his people and this will rock your chair and move the floor that your a easy christian and modern one that doesn't want to know and won't go find out why God sent him.

That your safe and cozy and you dont' want to go thru hard times and discover those things because you dont' want them and you had enough with the world. No matter what God did not sent you with out plan. He sent you because in heaven he told what he wanted and sent you here to do what he wanted but you don't know ! If this disturbs you good it does mean you don't know and have missing things in your life that is why you don't know he's pland and why your here and the mission he sent you.

I am an old christian and I went early to look for those things and it was hard but I remember it all back in the 90's remember and a lot of people forget what happened and last 30 years thinsg have change and what people knew back then of being good people is gone. Today the world has an agenda to make mankind believers of sin and don't want to find the true things of the bible. Go in deep study and pray and pray to find those things because I found a lot and back then in the 90's they don't know what you about all of this of this and freewill was something they still didn't talk but only college talk about.
 
No people the world has changed and freewill before isn't what today is. Back in the 90's you choose things more easily and their wasn't control today everything is digital. And before that it was analog now their is woke culture and cancel culture and guess what those are new words that just talk about the same old thing they talked about racism of african americans in USA which always the same and they don't deserve it. And cancel culture still talkin about shunning an individual for doing something that is offensive and doing wrong to feminism and racism.

All this is just to confuse people and make people waste time not find what they want to do ! What is their purpose and tell you to waste time thinking this is important when you have to go and find the real things in life that matter like family or doing your dream. And what is something higher than that is finding the real things of the bible and doing them in your life. That is important and if you put God first and you search for his things first I assure you will find why your here and have the thinsg that are missing in your life. The world will betray and fool you but guess what ? God does not betray and he will give your things and make you his people. You will get your things and it could be doing your dream, saving that person you love, finding the women you love and were destined. All this God will give if you look for the real things of the bible and the true things in the bible he gives. God gives it and it is his plan ! I pray for you find it and the path is hard but they do exist and I pray for you to have it ;D.
 
davidsheep88 said:
And cancel culture still talkin about shunning an individual for doing something that is offensive and doing wrong to feminism and racism.
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What people try to call cancel culture is not really anything different or new: Scandals have always existed, there have always been social and/or business consequences for doing something scandalous. In recent times it has been possible to call out racists and misogynists or gay bashers for their racist and sexist or gay bashing behavior. Maybe it's new to be able to call people out seriously for how they marginalize minorities and women. But there is nothing new about scandals or "shunning" nor is the contemporary occurrence of so-called "cancelling" anything worse than people have ever done when they disapproved of behavior and wanted to incentivize different behavior.
 
davidsheep88 said:
..not going to put you in a tight spot but do lies live daily in your life you don't like ?
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Well, if Trump comes on the news, I usually turn it off. :)

davidsheep88 said:
Is it okay for humanity to lie and humans need to lie to get their piece of bread ?
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No, it's not okay .. but it depends on the lie.
eg. if your life really depends on it .. not just more money etc.

davidsheep88 said:
Will do good if you take that bread away from them and report them to the police ?
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Again, it depends if people's lives are at risk..

davidsheep88 said:
everyone will face judgement to God almighty..
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Yes, indeed.
 
Nueroscience, pyschology, and science are part of human baody and freewill is a decision you make physically and spiritaully but promblem humans don't know how to use. We are not giving an answer were sent here blind without knowing and we learn aour puspoes and were lied by society and we know the reason why were here at the end ! But guess what not all of us get that just small percentage know their purpose and the rest the majority leaves the world and won't go to heaven but be judge for what they did.

It is unfair and people don't use all the gifts God gave them it is very important and me I don't like see so many who don't know why thier here and they give up and become like the world and become a slab or useless person in life. No it is not fair.


They can know and people who God sent us here do know why they were sent prophets know and people who wrote books about their lives know and found out after so much sufferement. Some realize they were too late and God sent them to save a person they died already and didn't realize and the true love you had she diead already in the covid horrible thing or in similiar situation. Their whole regret, their grief if they knew before they would of done things differently. You see people now ? They don't know and they do what the world tells them and taughts them and they don't why their here. The want things, and buy this and and buy me that. They studied to be an engineer and got the diploma but they really didn't want it. Their dream was thier mom for her to be an engineer. He lived her mother's dream and isntead he found out he wanted to a musician.

Those things happen in life and guess what they regret forever ! Some of you don't care and you are young like under 20 yrs when you are old like 50 yrs you realize you didn't get what you want and you can't do anything about it and become ungrateful. Guess what your family died and your alone ;-;. It is not fair that's why you can change it all and do the things that matter and do all those thingsa nd realzie God wanted you to do them. And because you are stubborn and selfish and you wanted. Me,me,me and me you let things slip and you can't take it back. Ohhhh you'll see people that gonna be you !!!
 
Better do something now. Do something now,now,now and now don't regret here you see people and other forums they have all written to me -_-. Insult me and have called me names they are forgiven and their excuse is that " You don't me know, God didn't do anything for me ". That's it. God doesn't have to ask you for nothing he doesn't owe you anything and you don't know owe. Ohhh I met people like that and not gentiles but christians too. All of them have done. And their excuse is why God sent me, I didn't ask this. I didn't want this !

Why didn't he gave a million dollars, why didn't he told since the beggining i would of done things differently ;-;. Why he made go thru my hell and only to end of my life it was somene else he sent me saved and I did what !!!


No consequence in his life. No people no no no no no no !

It isn't God's fault your fault simple as that ! You wanted to do whatever you want. You decided this and it isn't your momma fault or friends you wanted and you have arrogance and blindness not to admit you own errors and blame God for it. No people.


God is not your enemy he sent you here and the reason why he sent you is because he love ya and he trusted you and if you went to looke for God's approval since the begging and the world's you would of ahd it. If you search this and look for hsi stuff first ! You wouldn't be in your promblem. But no. I have to apologize to you this is rough and something we all have our tests and I pass my and they were not easy ! And I know some of you had those tests and you don't know what i'm talking about and your offended I apologize because this is hard stuff better you read this now and I pray you do something and instead of reading you do something to change your life. Believe I ahve done for others the same and people have asked me help to change their life. Ever since I started writting about freewill people have asked why God sent me here since you write lot about it.


I try and help and some people have helped them find their purpose ! I have changed life of other but cannot for you and canot for them I told you have to ask and pray all the time and he will give you the answer. It's not easy.

But do things now people do things go and break things. Go get mad witht he world and start seperating from it. Go back to school or get a job and don't let people tell you can't do it ! You wanna learn a lesson you want to know what inspire me each day and want others to find their mission of life and made realize wants you to go his will and all the world is stupid and only wants things and all fo them who freewill is the devil work ! And christians don't care and poeple just do one thing blame others because that's the easy thing -_-. I want you do the hard things God will help ya !

 
I'm not a handicap but God gives you that strength and if you want he will give it. Pray for you, you can save your family and you do what you want. Do it now because the world is gonna change again. And you better do things now then later regret !!!
 
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