i had a conversation with chatgps about bible

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Kylie said:
I hardly think ChatGPT is going to give you an accurate reading of the Bible.
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it can give very accurate readings and analysis of all versions of the Bible and known studies by Biblical scholars. How we interpret that information is our choice. the chatgpt link in the original post is very onesided and asking questions only about the current knowledge of the divinity of Jesus and how gospels were changed over time. It is asking questions about that and from the point of view of an atheist seeking to validate their beliefs about that. You can ask the link about questions from a Christian point of view if you wish to make the gpt chat less onesided.
 
@Kylie I only asked Chatgpt the following question:

besides the divinity of jesus being a point of contention between original vs modern gospel, is there anything in altered gospel being the main source for beneficial aspects practiced by christians today.

Here is its reply's conclusion:

Summary Table: Changes with Positive Ethical Impact​


PassageOriginal StatusLater Addition Impact
John 7:53–8:11Not originalForgiveness > punishment, mercy, self-examination
Mark 16:9–20Not originalResurrection appearances, missionary work, healing gifts
Matthew 28:19Possibly addedModern baptism formula, Trinitarian liturgy
Luke 22:43–44Absent in early textsJesus’ suffering: human compassion and divine empathy
John 1:18“Son” changed to “God”Stronger divinity emphasis, shaped Nicene creed



Final Reflection​


So yes — even if certain Gospel passages were not part of the earliest manuscripts, they have become meaningful sources of:


  • Ethical behavior (forgiveness, humility, compassion)
  • Spiritual practices (baptism, mission, prayer)
  • Emotional connection to Jesus as a relatable and merciful figure

Whether one believes in the divine authority of these texts or not, it's fair to say that even altered Gospel content has deeply shaped how millions live, forgive, and worship.

Dont want to post the full reply here cos its long but can use the link below to see it:
https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68844416ef948191b4dea42cd2be90e7
 
Hi Carlos01 – welcome aboard.

carlos01 said:
i would like to have your opinion please
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OK ... but there’s a lot to go through here ...

carlos01 said:
can you please read the whole bible and tell me if from what you read jesus seems to be more like prophet or god?
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I would say the straightforward answer is, both.

The other point is seems like to whom, because our understanding of the beliefs of early Christians and their Jewish contemporaries is way more detailed now than we once assumed, and it's not the case that Jesus must be either 'this' or 'that'.

So the question is not really how we, or ChatGPT, reads the text, but how they read it ... bearing in mind Christianity was about 30 years old before the first Gospel appeared, and the Gospel was a narrative to support what they learn as catechists before initiation into the Mysteries, and what they profess in the Liturgy having done so.
 
Vasu Devan said:
it can give very accurate readings and analysis of all versions of the Bible and known studies by Biblical scholars. How we interpret that information is our choice. the chatgpt link in the original post is very onesided and asking questions only about the current knowledge of the divinity of Jesus and how gospels were changed over time. It is asking questions about that and from the point of view of an atheist seeking to validate their beliefs about that. You can ask the link about questions from a Christian point of view if you wish to make the gpt chat less onesided.
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ChatGPT's ability to hallucinate is well known. If you haven't checked its claims against a valid source, then I wouldn't trust it for the truth. If you have checked the claims against valid evidence, why don't you present that instead of the cut and paste from ChatGPT?

In any case, a subjective interpretation of LLM chat which may or may not be a digital hallucination is hardly a reliable means to find the truth.

Vasu Devan said:
@Kylie I only asked Chatgpt the following question:

besides the divinity of jesus being a point of contention between original vs modern gospel, is there anything in altered gospel being the main source for beneficial aspects practiced by christians today.

Here is its reply's conclusion:

Summary Table: Changes with Positive Ethical Impact​


PassageOriginal StatusLater Addition Impact
John 7:53–8:11Not originalForgiveness > punishment, mercy, self-examination
Mark 16:9–20Not originalResurrection appearances, missionary work, healing gifts
Matthew 28:19Possibly addedModern baptism formula, Trinitarian liturgy
Luke 22:43–44Absent in early textsJesus’ suffering: human compassion and divine empathy
John 1:18“Son” changed to “God”Stronger divinity emphasis, shaped Nicene creed



Final Reflection​


So yes — even if certain Gospel passages were not part of the earliest manuscripts, they have become meaningful sources of:


  • Ethical behavior (forgiveness, humility, compassion)
  • Spiritual practices (baptism, mission, prayer)
  • Emotional connection to Jesus as a relatable and merciful figure

Whether one believes in the divine authority of these texts or not, it's fair to say that even altered Gospel content has deeply shaped how millions live, forgive, and worship.

Dont want to post the full reply here cos its long but can use the link below to see it:
https://chatgpt.com/s/t_68844416ef948191b4dea42cd2be90e7
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And how does this prove that the Gospels are the MAIN SOURCE for these ideals? The ideas the gospels have to be kind etc is hardly something that originated with Christianity. It was around long before.
 
Kylie said:
And how does this prove that the Gospels are the MAIN SOURCE for these ideals? The ideas the gospels have to be kind etc is hardly something that originated with Christianity. It was around long before.
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It never even says 'the gospels are the main source for these ideals'. It uses sources from reputed biblical scholar's research. I can get the sources for you if you are really interested in discovering them. That would still require you to get those books/papers and prove to yourself that those texts do say what is claimed. In fact, since the original gospels tend to be in Greek, it would require you to know that language and translate to verify.

I just posted the text to prove to you that AI won't be as one-sided as say someone with a bias. To show that it could be used to find information that presented both pros and cons of the altered gospels. It seemed to me like carlos01 had just created his IFO account to post his question challenging the Bible.

In my opinion, Truth is very subjective despite much of what science says. We cannot experience the whole of truth in our life. True knowledge, for me, comes from experience. Secondary sources of truth are, sensibly, accepted from non-experiential but trusted sources. So much of the world's accepted truth is based on belief of secondary sources, not personal experience. Even Science claims, currently, only empirical truth is true. Children in schools now are taught many science subjects not by doing each of the experiments but by trusting the teachers/textbooks speak the truth.
 
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Vasu Devan said:
Secondary sources of truth are, sensibly, accepted from non-experiential but trusted sources
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Of which ChatGPT is not one. I agree with many of your opinions, but we really need to keep AI tools out of IO because they are certainly not at a stage yet to be considered reliable. In the meantime, thread closed.
 
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