A Virgin Birth

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As increasingly the norm, I am much indebted to the A Perennial Digression substack for the substance of the arguments offered here.

First, let's first look at sources: For the life of Jesus, scholars suggest Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Q (and Josephus, because he mentions him).

Now, if we at least try and order that list chronologically, we get something like proto-John, Paul, Mark, Josephus, Q, Matthew, Luke, and final-John. I have put proto-John first because the author claims to be an eye-witness. That may well be true, but the final recension of John, the version we hold, was most likely completed after Mark, Matthew and Luke had been completed and were in circulation. There might well have been proto-Synoptics, as well.

Chronologically, then, John introduces Jesus as an adult. Paul only offers Jesus "born of a woman" (Galatians 4:4). Mark, like John, starts his story at Jesus' baptism. Q says nothing. So that leaves us with two: Matthew and Luke.

If we try and reconstruct a birth narrative, the first hurdle is that Matthew and Luke tell different stories. In Matthew, Jesus is conceived and born of a virgin in fulfillment of the oracle of LXX Isaiah 7:14. In Luke, the virginal conception and birth is revealed by the Archangel Gabriel to Mary (Luke 1:26-38) and not to Joseph. Mary questions how, but assents to the mystery. Mt and Lk both agree that Jesus' virgin birth is connected to his Davidide ancestry: Matthew in his genealogy (1:1-17), and Luke has Joseph "from the house of David" (1:27) and Gabriel clarifies that the son will inherit "the throne of his father David" (1:32).

Both Gospels have Jesus born in Bethlehem, but disagree in the details.

In Matthew, the Holy Family already live there, only relocating to Nazareth after their return from the Flight to Egypt. In Luke, they go from Nazareth to Bethlehem and back again. It's a convoluted story, and it's chronologically incorrect. Herod is alive, yet Quirinius is governor of Syria. Herod died in 4BCE, but Quirinius wasn't appointed governor until 6CE, 10 years later.

Luke implies Emperor Augustus called for a universal census, for which we have no record (and we absolutely would have, had it happened). Furthermore, no ancient census is recorded as requiring workers to go to their places of birth – what would be the point? A census is to determine who lives where, not where people lived n-number of years ago. (And the economic upheaval of a workforce travelling to and fro for days or even weeks across the empire would have been considerable.)

There was a census in 6CE in Syria and Judea, and Luke would remember that. It triggered the rebellion of Judas of Galilee, Judas of Galilee, or Judas of Gamala, who led resistance to the census imposed for tax purposes by Quirinius. If Jesus was born when Quirinius was governor, and was around 30 when John baptized him (Luke 3:23), this means Jesus started his ministry around 36CE. Pilate was Prefect from 26 to 36CE, when he was recalled by Tiberius. Even if Jesus' ministry is only one year, as the Synoptics suggest, the timing is unlikely.

Matthew's story is the more likely, saying Jesus was born when Herod the Great was king, probably sometime in the last two years of his life, 6-4BCE. That would put Jesus around 30 at the start of Pilate's prefecture. Luke, confusingly, attests to this by saying that Jesus' birth happened when Herod was king (Luke 1:5). This can only be Herod the Great. (Another problem for another day is whether John the Baptist outlived Jesus – because in some gospel reconstructions, he might well have.)

Multiple attestation to the birth then runs into trouble when only two of the six attest to it, and furthermore because the attestation might be for ideological reasons, rather than historical.

Jesus of Nazareth does not quite fit the scriptural paradigm for a Davidic messiah. That the messiah should be able to trace a direct line to David’s city, Bethlehem, is stated in Micah 5:2. Matthew (2:5-6) and John (7:40-44) both concur that this was an expectation among Jesus' contemporaries, and John in particular finds it an objection to Jesus among Jesus' interlocutors (7:40-53) – here the argument blows up that Jesus can't be a prophet because he's not from Bethlehem, but Galilee.

Given that John was composed last, either John knows the Bethlehem story, and for some inexplicable reason chooses not to refute the accusation that Nazareth does not qualify Jesus as either a Davidide or a prophet, or he doesn't know it, but includes the criticism because that was the kind of thing Jesus was up against, or, he does know it, but sees it as a narrative device.

John's Jesus says "You are from beneath, I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world" (8:23) – that overrides everything.

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So, two nativity stories, they disagree on details, and one of them is rather implausible on the when, where, and why of Jesus’s birth.

The other is not much better.

Matthew's story of magi coming from Persia to visit the infant Jesus, who escapes Herod’s wrath and flees down to Egypt to come up again, does echo Moses – a child who escapes a murderous king, goes down to Egypt, then comes back as an agent of God.

On their return, after Herod has died, Matthew has the family relocate to Nazareth. The text reasons the move from Bethlehem to Nazareth as a precaution against Herod's son Archelaus (2:22), who might continue to hunt for the child. But Antipas, also Herod's son, ruled in Galilee, and by all accounts Antipas was an even more political animal than his father. The narrative in Matthew 2 weaves in no less than four prophecies into the space of 10 verses, the last being "And coming he dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was said by prophets: That he shall be called a Nazarene" (2:23).

If Luke tries too hard to get Jesus to Bethlehem, Matthew is struggling to explain why Jesus becomes associated with Nazareth. The historically simpler answer is that Jesus was born and raised in Nazareth, and that the Bethlehem story was a later tradition, to make Jesus fulfill the oracle from Micah and tick the relevant boxes. As son of Joseph, he qualifies as a Davidide, but evidently there were tensions regarding the precise fulfilment of prophecy.

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Was Jesus and his family Davidides? Scholars are skeptical. Tracing a genealogy over 1,000 years was as hard in the 1st century CE as it is today. Matthew's genealogy disagrees with Luke's – I was taught that Matthew's was Joseph's line, Luke's was Mary's – but both Matthew and Luke's are each attributed to Joseph, and in both, Jesus' relationship to Joseph is one of an adoptive stepfather. A belief in Mary as a Davidide does not emerge until the 2nd century CE, in the Protoevangelium of James.

This apocryphal text gives us a lot of how we think about the virginal conception and birth stories, as well as later Mariological traditions popular among Christians. It's the foundation of the nativity story in the Quran. The text was never considered canonical, and it's proof of Mary's virginity after the birth seems offensive to mine eyes, especially as it was never a requirement of the miraculous births of the Hebrew Scriptures. Mary's cousin Elizabeth, mother of the Baptist, is an example of miraculous birth – she was considered too old to conceive – but there is no implication that John was the fruit of something other than the usual method of procreation. (And why ever would anyone even bother to question whether the hymen is still intact after the birth?)

Ancient peoples frequently claimed divine, heroic and other kinds of ancestry for themselves all the time. Whether these claims are actually true, whether the people who made these claims believed they were true, and whether they were publicly accepted as true, are all separate issues.

Some scholars, like Bart Ehrman, seem not to get this when they evaluate whether Jesus was a Davidide. That is to say, it does not matter if Jesus really was a descendant of David, anymore than it matters if Jewish priests were actually descendants of Aaron and Levi: all of our sources about Jesus, including Paul, think he’s a Davidide, and this implies that people at least thought he was one.

Jesus was publicly acclaimed as messiah prior to his crucifixion, and was crucified as a messianic claimant, specifically in a royal-Davidic mode. It is quite possible that Jesus' ancestry to David was accepted by some but challenged by others, who found his Galilean origins in Nazareth unbecoming the dignity of a Davidic messiah. His family may have passed down a fairly long tradition of this descent – who’s to say? Joseph's family may have been regarded as of Davidic descent, and so might Mary's. Galilee was resettled by zealous Jewish families in the Hasmonean period, and several of the towns built there bear messianic names (Natsarit itself, Nazareth, is from netser, 'branch', a reference to the Davidic "branch" of Isaiah 11:1); several of these families may have cherished stories of royal descent. Joseph, in marrying a local girl, may well have married someone of a similar or shared family background.

Jesus' plausibly Davidic credentials don't help the historicity of either Matthew or Luke. In both cases, asserting Jesus' Davidide status would have been the impetus for a Bethlehem nativity, a narrative deeply connecting him with David and the messianic tradition, and of anticipating and/or responding to complaints about Jesus' qualifications to be a messiah in the Davidic mode.

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No. It's behind a paywall.
There is one reason for me to avoid the other is you...you and this fantastic thread. Your education and abilities of rehashing and Synopsis in such a way to allow folks like me to absorb are far more worthy than anything I could share.

Idk how much of this is virtually verbatim cut and paste and how much is your analysis of what you've read...and that hardly matters, totally intriguing read which I appreciate.

I like a lot about Barts books, but as I said before regarding the debate between he and bishop spong at lyceum you've totally identified why I prefer Jack. Bart discovered the inconsistencies and after decades of Bible study the lies and misinformation from previous preachers and teachers upset him so he "threw the baby out with the bath water". Where ss Sponge accepted human frailty and ego and realized it was developed long before scripture was and scripture was replete with it...but there was essence in both the old and new testaments worth their weight in gold in modern daily life.

I anxiously await the next chapter...and so wish you were in evolved in that discussion with Bart and Jack and rather than me gleaning from the actual discussion I would be able to read your thoughts and cliff notes on the discussion!
 
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A shared element of the nativity stories is that Jesus' virginal conception establishes Jesus as Son of God.

Paul, Mark and John all also believe Jesus is Son of God, and Paul and John have higher Christologies than the others, but none mention of a virgin birth. So a virgin birth narrative is not the only way to attribute divine sonship to Jesus. This could serve as an argument in the story's historical favour. Mt and Lk had other options, but chose this one. Could it be that they did because they had reason to think it happened? It might be that the virgin birth is an example of the criterion of embarrassment, and implies the veracity of the event, in the style of Tertullian’s Credo quia absurdum?

Why spin up some virgin birth narrative when there were other, less bizarre routes to declaring Jesus' sonship?

Stories of miraculous conceptions and births for demigods, heroes and divine humans were both widespread and normative in the Ancient Near East. The virgin birth narrative is not out of place in the literature and landscape of the religious world of antiquity.

The Hebrew Scriptures describes a few miraculous births. Mt and Lk both refer to these stories – in Genesis, Isaac is miraculously conceived and born to Abraham and Sarah in their old age. There's sufficient reason to suspect that HaShem is the father of Isaac. When the angel tells Matthew's Joseph that τέξεται δὲ υἱὸν καὶ καλέσεις τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦν, (1:21 "And she will bring forth a son, and thou shall call his name Jesus), the formula is not only a reference to LXX Isaiah 7:14, καὶ τέξεται υἱόν καὶ καλέσεις τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Εμμανουηλ, but also LXX Genesis 17:19, τέξεταί σοι υἱόν καὶ καλέσεις τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Ισαακ ("And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac"), and in the story of the birth of Samson, when the Angel of the Lord tells Samson's mother, καὶ οὐ τέτοκας καὶ ἐν γαστρὶ ἕξεις καὶ τέξῃ υἱόν (LXX Judges 13:3 "Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son"), the only thing missing is the name.

Samuel has a somewhat miraculous birth, as Hannah his mother was barren, but her prayers were answered and she bore a son. Early Jewish exegesis adduced special births of this kind to the likes of Noah and Moses. So, while the virgin birth is unique to the Gospels, a Jewish hero with a miraculous birth story was well established in Greco-Roman Judaism. Mt and Lk are participating in a literary trope well known to Jewish writers, and this puts their infancy narratives into a context that makes them less likely to be reporting objective events and more likely to be weaving a rich literary account of Jesus’s early life that would be enticing to readers of Jewish scripture, and would signal something of what was to follow.

Broader still, in the wider Near Eastern and Greco-Roman world, there is a vast array of cults to and stories about gods cavorting with humans and producing demigods, heroes, and other divine, or quasi-divine, persons. From Gilgamesh on, to Herakles, Achilles, Aeneas; Romulus and Remus, Alexander, Julius Caesar and Octavian, ANE and Greco-Roman cultures were open to claims of divine parentage, both mythological or historical. The ancients evolved philosophical understandings of divine births that 'defanged' their mythic tales of divine rape/seduction by making them accounts of divine pneuma, rather than semen, as the impregnating agent in the human mothers. Ln like manner, scholars reckon that in the original versions of miraculous birth, Yahweh featured as the father, later displaced by angels as intermediary. Genesis 4:1 says "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord"; Yahweh may originally have been the father of Isaac, and almost certainly the original father of Samson.

Contrary to later Christian apologetics, Mt and Lk have a divine birth because they know their audience. Ancient Jews valued those kinds of stories for Jewish heroes, and Ancient Jews valued those stories because ancient people generally valued them. A divine birth story undergirds Jesus' claim to divine sonship for Jewish and non-Jewish readers alike, such things are expected of the sons of God. Christian exegetes drew on the continuity of trope to emphasise Jesus' legitimacy as Son of God. Justin Martyr points out that Christians claim nothing different for Jesus from what the Greeks already believe of Herakles or Dionysos (1 Apol. 21.1-3).

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On all of these grounds a historian, doing history, would be inclined to dismiss the virgin birth as history. The sources are not unified in affirming it, and the sources that do share a virgin birth story are late and don't agree on it either. Mt and Lk also have a clear motive, rhetorically, literarily, and theologically, to adduce a virgin birth – to underline that Jesus is Son of David and Son of God – though clearly these beliefs are not dependent on a virgin birth; in fact, writers with higher Christologies than either of them don’t have one.

History is about establishing probability, plausibility and possibility from its sources. Whether miracles are possible or not is a philosophical and theological question, and one separate from whether a particular miracle has actually occurred. History can't decide if miracles do or don't happen, that's outside the scope of history as a discipline. History can help, however, in establishing the probability of a miracle.

On that basis, history cannot rule out the virgin birth.

The Gospels of Matthew and Luke, like all the New Testament texts, are exactly that – they are testament, attestations to truths of a theological nature, not a record of an historical actuality.

In saying, therefore, that the virgin birth is theology, not history, it's not a question of whether it happened or not. The blunt answer is, we don't know, and we can't know. History is not the past itself, but a logical reconstruction, on the basis of evidence and inquiry, always subject to the possibility of misreading. No honest historian can deny that. Therefore we should not treat history’s word as final in all instances.

Nor, on the other hand, can we treat theological claims as proofs of historical ones.

An end.
 
...and so wish you were in evolved in that discussion with Bart and Jack and rather than me gleaning from the actual discussion I would be able to read your thoughts and cliff notes on the discussion!
Yeah, but you know me, there'd be nods and smiles, but so much frustration and annoyance! I'd have probably spilt my coffee all over my notes right at the end, and ruined the lot.

Then I'd have to reconstruct them, from memory ... and ... oh dear, round and round we go!
 
Well that is all well and good. But now that that review has an end...where does Thomas end? Toward Bart (the facts of the misleading symoptics with a bent toward the movement is greater than truth disappointment or leaning toward Spong (the rest of the stories are worthy despite innacuracies)?
 
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