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    Do we have a spirit and, if so, what role does it play in our relationship with God?

    I never hear the individual spirit of a person being discussed in Church, only the collective versions of Spirit. Could we get to know our individual spirit as a means of better connecting with God? I see signs of something reentering my body when about to wake up from nighttime dreams. It seems...
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    AI Chatbots and Spirituality?

    Ever sit in church and “see” one Christ from the integrated gifts of those in the congregation? I occasionally have. Similarly, A.I. seems able to pull together various human insights. The differently described parts of the elephant can be put together to help us see the whole elephant? I...
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    Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

    I have heard there is translation questions about the word interpreted as “eternal.” As I recall the original word (Greek?) was Eons or something like that. Some interpretations say it means a long time, but not necessarily forever. I agree that eternal damnation is inconsistent with a loving...
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    Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

    I think the Bible has quite a few meaningful myths other than the parables. I wonder what the myth to history ratio might be. I suspect fairly myth heavy. Perhaps Rabbi Christ’s parables were to help us see the Bible’s truths as being figurative, not so literal? Inclusion (that Jesus latched...
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    Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

    I agree that Christianity is not merely a positive self fulfilling prophesy, as it involves encouragement to EXPERIENCE our connection to God, using God’s Messenger/Son to help link/connect. Self fulfilling prophecies help with doing but Christianity is most concerned with BEING. And once the...
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    Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

    I like that. But also suggests that we too are not in essence as separate in our being as we suppose, and that at the base of our individual being we are rooted in spirit as manifestations of God also (3 is a multiple, so is/are all humans). Children of God does come close to this view (of being...
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    Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

    And that would not be a good God by which to promote a POSITIVE self-fulfilling prophecy. So I think you chose your belief wisely, even if for reasons other than self-fulfilling prophecy. I don’t rule out those other reasons. I just prefer to make my case with the weakest reason. “If you can...
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    Can you believe In God, yet not in the Bible?

    I agree Thomas. Religion can be a useful series of prompts to be more fully human or “spiritual.” It may require holding the contents of the religion more loosely and requiring figurative interpretation, but there is some good stuff there. A person can be both spiritual AND religious. To often...
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    Can you believe In God, yet not in the Bible?

    Paul Tillich’s description of God as The Ground of Being, and Moses’ hearing God identify as “I am that I am” suggests that the practice of spirituality (which, I assume religion is really supposed to be about) is largely about the skill of being. In turn, this skill seems to require an ability...
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    Can you believe In God, yet not in the Bible?

    I recently had the insight that there seem to be three skill domains for being fully human: “being, relating, doing.” After sharing this insight with my minister, I decided to do an internet search using the phrase “being, relating, and doing.” To my surprise, the concepts were not at all...
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    Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

    Ditto on that. Seems like an artifact of tribalism. More like “we choose to be THE ones. Exclusionary. The healthier, more loving attitude would be “We all can grow. Let’s help each other do that, and we will eventually all benefit from it. Win/win. Not zero sum.
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    Thoughts about Trinity beliefs

    From first article: In the debates, immortality is usually taken to mean the inability of the person to perish. If we identify with Ultimate Reality (whatever specific form it may or may not have) then, “we” (at least the way we think of ourselves) is by definition immortal because Ultimate...
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    Can you believe In God, yet not in the Bible?

    Image to contemplate in terms of our discussion about developmental stages including movement from independence (selfhood) to interdependence.
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    Can you believe In God, yet not in the Bible?

    Perfect synchronicity: Just as I was parking the church bus I drive to shuttle folks from a retirement village to church, a moth landed on inside of my driver’s side window. I rolled the window down to “liberate” it, Out it flew, free as a bird (or should I say “moth”)!
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