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My word search application must be defective, where does Genesis mention Jesus? :confused:

Generally the older the text, the more likelihood that it approaches the "original." Which pretty much blows mee's version, especially since the books of the NT were written somewhere between 70 and 120 (or so). But the Vulgate is not all that close to the "original" either. After all, it is in...

I can't recall ... what is it I have been trying to convince you of?

Where? :D

I distrust anyone who tells me that he has the "truth," especially in these days of ideological megalomania. "No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: he is always convinced that it says what he means." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

Re: Nicene creed Ask yourself if the "Trinity" is found in Scripture. Be careful. Try to use only the text. Look at only what the text(s) say. Now, with texts in hand, do they tell us that there are three "persons" of the same "substance"? Or is this idea a later theological...

That's quite true, especially since it was written pretty close to 164 BC by someone who was offering reassurance to Israel that YHWH would settle the hash of Antiochus IV Epiphanes and the Abomination Desolation which Antiochus had placed in the Jerusalem Temple. If mee had read the Daniel...

1) Yes, it has been altered, usually to provide "authentication" for the beliefs of one's own cult. 2) I had to look up "Chinese Whispers." I had always just called it the "Telephone Game." It is a good explanation of how the earliest levels of the Jesus Sayings lost their original context...

Peerhaps you should speak for yourself.

Several sections of the New World Translation are doctrinally important to the Jehovah's Witnesses. These sections have been altered from the original text in order to support the JW theology. Not a single one of the other translations agrees with the JW version in these sections. To say that...

Post #15 is irrelevant to the question of whether the Bible has been deliberately altered.

Sometimes it helps to read what the text says rather than what one interpretes the text as saying according to personal beliefs. In other words, what part of ... "It is thus offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a Christian talk nonsense about such things (scientific...

"Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and distances . . . and this knowledge he holds with certainty from reason and experience. It is thus offensive and disgraceful...

Thank you for sharing your views — views which you share with a number of people who have no understanding of sexual orientation and whose constant oh-so-well-meaning, patronizing platitudes do nothing but reiterate an invincible ignorance. Not really, you're just kidding yourself.

That really doesn't work very well. Psalm 83 is a prayer for deliverance from national enemies and v.18 is just the hope that God will prove he's the top man by defeating those enemies. So, take your choice: poetic bragging rights or theological literature — oh! gee! they're the same thing. LOL

That's very perceptive. You are speaking of what is called "sexual orientation." I usually speak of it much more crudely. A person's sexual orientation is "where his pecker points." And while the pecker can sometimes be "encouraged" to point at a specific person, one's orientation is always...