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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    >> What is said is not our responsibility, what we do with what has been said is our responsibility. >> I would also add that self-control is not necessary when we realize we are not the doer, and doership is the greatest cause of ego. You have renounced volumes. Not in yourself, in others...
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    Are you on a mission to prove me correct?
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    A naturalistic spirituality?

    Which perhaps could be consistent if you don't go around telling people that their philosophy is NOT the scientific method, demanding some empirical evidence from them, as if when you are ever convinced, then it is a proof.
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    A naturalistic spirituality?

    Oh my, Thomas. You have had no interaction with the Divine? None at all? Is that just the clear cut Catholic answer for a person who calls themselves an atheist?
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    I know what a person did and said in my presence, in promotion and response, with a little interaction. When do you take responsibility for what you say? Lunitik said opposing things about religion, himself, God, love, truth, spirit, etc... all part of his nature. In the heat of a moment he...
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    A naturalistic spirituality?

    Ah yes: Government, Criminals, and Moderators.
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Some. Do good and turn the other cheek for others as we would have others do good and turn the other cheek for us. I will provide you a more personal example of homework I have done: I intentionally spent time with a person who had a police rap sheet for essentially doing unto others as he would...
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Sorry, I thought you were the person that formerly posted as Lunitik. We argued once about how I could get to know him. I sense you have posted here before. Am I correct? Lunitik said that too when it suited him. I guess I see why you are calling it a joke. I submit that some do, some work, is...
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    You have renounced volumes. Not in yourself, in others. You prefer to not do the work to apply that to yourself. What you see changes with your mood. You have pronounced religion to be many things. For whom is your story appealing?
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    What is there to not understand? What kind of words are to be exchanged in a game of tennis? If hitting balls is your dharma, and swinging a racquet is the extent of your serve, then who do you think you are playing for to win? Imagine a different game where you play for the opponent, friend or...
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Lunitik returns? Karma-Samnyasa?
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Thank you Aupmanyav. I had read something similar. Do you know where in the Hindu texts Krishna had words for Bhisma, or in regards to Bhisma?
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    That is where I was headed next: Dharma and Karma. Is the Dharma of a person (man, woman) ever to: 1. To do unto others as others do unto others? 2. To not do unto others as others do not do? 3. To do unto others as they would not have others do unto them? 4. To not do unto others as they...
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    It is encouraging to hear then that Hare Krishna did not teach to chant his name. According to that wiki, is looks like Bhishma was a culprit: Did Hare Krishna chant his name?
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    Conjectures and Refutations

    radarmark, I am sharing this here from the PM, in recognition that I was vague and not providing details. I don't see anything private in it: Regarding proof: The issue is that information handed from one person to another does not comprise a proof. I know in the rational sense you think it...
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    Krishna called the inaction of Bhisma a great sin (mahapapam). How is that possible? Aupmanyav and bhaktajan, question for you: Who does a 'true brahmin' worship, and give all kinds of respect to?
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    So I guess I am clear then bhaktajan: Jesus Christ did NOT teach of a Santa Claus with reindeer. Hare Krishna did NOT teach anyone to go around chanting his name like a mindless zombie. If you believe otherwise, feel free to show where you think Krishna taught it.
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    React to insults--Why turn other Cheek

    So I read just a little history of Yudhisthira, Duryodhana, and Bhisma. From my viewpoint both the good and the evil were in each: they each surely did some good things, and each reportedly did evil. As I read of the arrow bed for Bhisma, and the words of Krishna with him regarding the...
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    So again, whenever you wish to drop your lack of attention, hubris, or lethargy: If Hare Krishna is your Lord, show me where in his words, he taught followers like yourself to chant his name. Show me where he told you that chanting his name would bring them whatever it is that you claim it brings.
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    If God spoke again, would you listen?

    I have seen that pitch fork before. bhaktajan, If Hare Krishna is your Lord, please show me where in his words, he taught followers like yourself to chant his name. Show me where he told you that chanting his name would bring them whatever it is that you claim it brings. "Repeat after me...
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