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I certainly sympathise with Gay people facing the hatred, bigotry, and ignorance of Traditional and Bible thumper Christians. Those so-called Christians oppose nearly everything that the Gospel Jesus taught. One thing perturbed me somewhat. The comment was that "folks think we're Godless."...

Actually, the Bible clearly tells a story of three different gods. It is not the irrational trinity myth, but different gods. First God was Yahweh the jealous, cruel, frightening, violent, homicidal, and genocidal Sky Monster. He was designed for the Neolithic and Bronze Age tribal societies by...

I think Wil is describing a previously unnamed religion, Cafeterianity. Its only similarity to Christianity is that both begin with a C. If only we could design our own gods and religions to fit our psychological needs. Oh, I forgot, Athanasius and Constantine already did that. There is a...

DEATH IS FINAL There is no resurrection from the dead. The following quotes indicating the finality of death and not the delusion of immortality come only from the Old Testament. All but four references to resurrection are from the New Testament (i.e. Pagan derived.) Job 7:9 "As the cloud is...

The so-called pervasive use of Jewish scriptures was nothing less than Pagan Romans cutting and pasting from among more extensive Jewish scriptures, a few, out of context, and twisted out of context. I am not sure why the Proto-Christians used the Jewish scriptures at all. They really have no...

What is difficult is finding a real connection of Christianity to Judaism. Islam is clearly so much like Judaism, that both could be considered sects of the same strictly Monotheistic Faith. Abraham and Moses clearly contributed ideas to Islam. However, nothing from Moses and Abraham seem to...

If the god of your brain circuits were intelligent, loving, and emotionally more advanced than a Bosnian Serb, an OT prophet, or NT evangelist, then he should be able to forgive any offence. He should be magnanimous not vindictive and capricious. I do not believe that a man can forgive his own...

Tradition is a system of dealing with the world and is obviously not based on scientific data or mathematics. Its function is as a contemporary way of dealing with the world in a time when knowledge of the world is sparce or wrong. Tradition is based to some extent on the imaginative views of...

I thought "wise men" were high ranking Mafia agents above the more common Mafia crooks or "soldiers." :D Amergin

I agree largely with your leading post on this thread. Christianity does indeed resemble Zoroastrianism much more than Judaism. The God (or Gods) of Zoroastrianism and Christianity are nearly identical. Both religions are structured on the classical Indo-European model dating back to perhaps...

Your posts plus those of Bob X and Nick are very interesting. You have all been doing a lot of reading on this subject. I have also read many books on the subject of Gods, Trinities, Sun Gods, Sons of God, and Holy Spirits. Obviously our opinions vary. Bob makes a point of possible pre-Celtic...

One must remember that Moses is believed to have written the Genesis parts of the Bible. He most likely used a number of different mythological figures to make up his story. We do not know if Abraham was a real person or a legend. Perhaps he was an ancient Jewish ancestor but we cannot verify...

Thanks for that interesting information. It has been my hypothesis that Christianity is really an Indo-European religion which is descended from the proto-Indo-European Religion leading up to the Sanskrit. The Christian God is a Trinity but contains individuals that are addressed directly and...

Nick, I agree that both the OT God and the NT God were invented and designed by people separated by 1400 years and between a Bronze Age culture versus a Classical Greco-Roman culture/Iron Age Plus. In the Bronze Age, tribal societies were ruled by war lords who used abject fear and trembling...

The Appeal of God He is a vast limitless being, without form or shape. He is not material. Damn, he's not even energy. He has neither brain nor a pair of eyes; No umbilicus, anus, or nipples? And there are no Jacobs under the missing todger. But He designed all matter, five ministrings...

The Evil in the Stone Cross The Sun sinks lower in the western sky And shadows creep from where the dead now lie. Dread and darkness drape the damp hanging moss On stark trees of the path to the stone cross. The cross stands in a long neglected glade Grown wild in this old grave yard’s dismal...

The Joy of Freedom When I became convinced that the Universe is natural, that all the ghosts and gods are myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, the joy of Freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell. The...

Creation (for the discoverer of the Grotte de Lascaux: Marcel Ravidat) On all the living walls of this dim cave, soot and ochre, acts of will, come down to us to say: This is who we were. We foraged here in an age of ice, and, warmed by the fur of wolves, felt the pride of predators going...

Re: Does God exi st? Much depends on a rational definition of gods or God. It is my "opinion" that gods were created in the human mind to serve as explanations for phenomena for which the cause was unknown. When no visible or observable cause could be found, humans invented gods. Humans like...

The most important source for my views has been the Bible itself. My doubts began from reading the Bible at an early age. In the early years I just knew that the Jesus story did not make sense to me, but I had no evidence to back it up apart from that. Since then I have found serious scholars...