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A thought occurs to me: I've been further scrutinizing the implications of "dave gentile"'s statistical analyses of the Synoptics and their vocabularies at www.davegentile.com/synoptics/Synoptic_m... Now it may be that others have (kinda, sorta) reversed the implied nomenclature on some of...

Having studied the Gospels in editions ranging from Funk & Miller to Harper/Collins to the New Revised, etc., all I've gleaned has been strictly from translations and from modern analysis from the likes of Crossan, Funk, Kloppenborg, Borg, Mack, etc. For years, I would have essentially agreed...

Thanks! Am going right there! Best, Operacast

Having studied the Gospels in editions ranging from Funk & Miller to Harper/Collins to the New Revised, etc., all I've gleaned has been strictly from translations and from modern analysis from the likes of Crossan, Funk, Kloppenborg, Borg, Mack, etc. For years, I would have essentially agreed...

Actually most of the Christians I know today -- and that includes yours truly -- do _not_ believe in every word of the Bible anyway, and so they would not be surprised at, for instance, finding contradictions in it. Furthermore, BTW, they _do_ credit evolution as viable, and so they take much...

Very clear. Thank you. I'm afraid, then, the piece I found on line, referred to in the OP http://etd.lib.ttu.edu/theses/available/etd-07312008-31295015156333/unrestricted/31295015156333.pdf , is guilty of some distortion of a type that (deliberate or not) I've seen in too many other places...

Evidently, I did not make it clear enough in my second posting just why I was now blushing so ............... the skeptical remarks making light of those who claim that, even though they've never seen Brahma, they can still show the way of union with him come, in fact, from one and the same...

BTW, I just read somewhere that Jehovah's Witnesses don't specifically worship Jesus. -- That is, "they don't place Jesus at the centre of their worship" and "they do not worship or even pray to him". Is all this yet another inaccuracy? Thanks, Operacast

Sorry, I feel truly dumb, and I'm sorry to have wasted everyone's time. Clearly, that exchange on page 243 of the online rationalism survey http://etd.lib.ttu.edu/theses/available/etd-07312008-31295015156333/unrestricted/31295015156333.pdf is right in the same 13th Sutta of the Digha-Nikaya...

I have started plunging into a detailed analysis of Indian and Greek rationalism in THE UNTOLD STORY ABOUT GREEK RATIONAL THOUGHT, at http://etd.lib.ttu.edu/theses/available/etd-07312008-31295015156333/unrestricted/31295015156333.pdf . It is a boon finding such a detailed exposition of this...

Still looking forward to it. Enjoy your trip/vacation. Still hope that I can evaluate everything that BB submitted here in a proper way myself after my own vacation's over some time next week. And naturally, everyone else here should feel free to chime in in any way they like well before...

You reread the whole galumphing thing?! Goodness why?! No call to slog through this lumbering thing twice! I guess I should be flattered, but I also feel some pity!:-) Cheers, Operacast

How so, exactly? (Sincere inquiry, not any gotcha question.) Best to all, Operacast

Re: Query to bananabrain (part 3) I so appreciate this thorough and candid overview of your own journey. Unfortunately, since my wife and I are on vacation and limping along on dial-up, I cannot address your many points in any detail until after we return. But I thank you very much for this...

LOL! Just dropping in here for a moment, since my wife and I are on vacation for a week and limping along on sloooooooooooow dial-up (GR-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R!!!!!!!). Just a few thoughts, hardly momentous, which I'll offer as relevant in other follow-up posts coming up after this one. Stay tuned...

Perfectly fair observation -- which in turn begs the question that pestered me back when I first wanted, not so many years ago, to discover some pioneering atheist who was a profoundly influential double "Original": How come it's always the countercultural theists who have that requisite...

T H A N K Y O U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Operacast

I remember an ironic dark-humor joke that may apply to both of you equally -- and me even more, since I fall afoul of the same thing myself more often than anyone I know: The comedian Tom Lehrer once quipped -- "Now I know there are some people in this world who do not love some fellow human...

Re: Query to bananabrain (part 4) OOPS! Two different versions of the same (but garbled) sentence got included side by side! ===============> ================> The next sentence should read: The thing is, even the more plentiful decent atheists of recent times do not introduce new ethical...

Thanks. I took your advice and queried bananabrain as a separate thread on the Judaism board. The thread is at http://www.comparative-religion.com/forum/query-to-bananabrain-9420.html Best to all, Operacast