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Post Meal Sleepiness huh? yea... chaotic cake will do that

this is what happens when you put scientists in the kitchen... dude that cake sounds chaotically consistent enuff to like... explode : P

If ur cake is consistently inconsistent then its kool

Hey SG Long time no cake ; )

"Even more devastating was Godel's demonstration that the internal consistency of such mathematical systems also cannot be established. Not only are there unresolvable questions in any consistent mathematical system, one of the questions that cannot be resolved is whether the system is...

rite on ;)

hey Mark, just signed in 2 reply to a PM, im doin fine dude. Whats goin on with you?

Do you understand what it meant to be a slave in Arabia, before Islam? Also, do you realize how many actual slaves, and how many more functional slaves exist in the world right now? Even in America? What I'm tryin' to say is: don't try and score points against the Quran via the slavery issue...

You've put yourself in an awkward position Bob, since I'm not gonna show you any respect (since you've been calling me "stupid and senseless" this whole time) but if you still continue to post on this thread you'll be going against your own word here. But in any case, since we've reached this...

p.s. Too clarifications: #1: Regarding Chaitin's quote he was talking about logicians themselves, who refuse to accept the "obvious" conclusions of Godel's work, not the laymen (as you claim). #2: The sentence "I don't have a low opinion of you" that was a typo. The original sentence was "I...

LoL! Bob, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HE IS BELIEVES! The "obvious conclusion from Goedel's work is that LOGIC IS A FAILURE". He said it exactly in these words: plain as day. It doesn't get any clearer. Chaitin does not "devote his life" to philosophy and logic itself. He is a computer scientist as...

Actually, you're the one who doesn't know what Chaitin meant, since the BBC linked that quote DIRECTLY to Goedel's attempt at the Continuum theorem, not anything else. I'm gonna call Bullsh*t on this one, bob. Chaitin's opinions are not "widely" disputed. And compared to him, you're a nobody...

I'd like to introduce you to a little chapter in the history of the world known as "THE SPANISH INQUISITION" There are many others, but start with this one.

"yes" WHAT? "Yes" you agree that you were lying in claiming that Chaitin's views are "widely" disputed? First of all, none of this relates to the point that Chaitin made. I can see right through your smoke grenades Bob, and your IQ does not impress me. Secondly, Turing is already discussed in...

What discussion have you tried to have? All you've been saying is "no, I'm smarter then this guy, so you should just take my word for it." And now you merely quoted your own authority on the issue, that doesn't even deal directly with Chaitin's quote I provided. And here's another perfect...

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Neither IQ nor education bestow knowledge, bob. They are only a measure of a person's capacity to mechanically absorb and recall information. Case in point, even a person like you will refuse to change his/her opinion, out of the sheer fear that your (fragile) self image will shatter. Wait wait...

rite... anyways ... so here's the recap: A BBC documentary with professional mathematicians Oswald Spengler, a highly respected philosopher Multiple articles which all said: The question of the eleatics remains unanswered. And your only response up till now has been (and I'm paraphrasing)...

I'm sure you love reading your own essays, Bob. But to me, its just overly flamboyant purple prose. However, it is amusing, since I can watch you just dig deeper holes for yourself. The fact that you wrote all of this without even having watched the documentary which so clearly supports...

p.s. Zeno's Paradox of Motion is actually mentioned right in part one and kick starts the whole documentary. I forgot about that. Cw-zNRNcF90 @ minutes 7:30: "And it was infinity which lay at the heart of it all. But there was a problem with it...." They first focus on Cantor's attempt at...