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verbose, as always, eh bob? Rite, calling someone "stupid" in a debate is okay and not ad hominem (again, sarcasm). That was the real "fail" here (which taken together with the rest of your post makes it "epic"). ... i'm finding it funny that you have a graduate degree in mathematics Bob. Its...

Most fathers who beat their kids in Pakistan aren't drunk when they do it (and usually do it for a valid reason) unlike many in non-Muslim nations, where the child is unable to make any sense of why he's getting his ass kicked by a drunk father. When I was a kid and got beat (which was very...

... This is what happens when the people start taking the hadith seriously... They get all "Book of Revelations" like. Farhan, if this is what you actually believe, then I pity you.

hmmm... The World's First Anarchist VERSUS The "Philosopher King" Himself ?? now that's somethin' i'd actually order on pay per view

rrrrite "asprin" :P

HA! Take that u anti-malware softwaress !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 That quote (when taken in context) isn't saying everything is one, but that for anything to exist in plurals (like triangles) there has to be "one" prior form (which according to him exists in a "world of forms".) This itself is...

Ad hominem attacks are for idiots, douchebags & losers, Bob. Guess which category u fall into. Fun fact: Sometimes grasping the bigger picture and anticipating the opposition's counterargument is the same thing. Unfortunately 4 u, you failed at both. "Following a lead given by Russell...

well FINALLY !! what's it been, like 4 months? I read over your response (it was quite amusing). But i wont have time to reply until late Feb as im still mobile. good 2 see u back in the field though bob (despite whatever delusional excuses you want to put up). We'll get into it soon, k? Later

FYI: I can't really deal with this computer in this hostel's lobby. We don't seem to be getting along at all... (it wouldn't even open that link Thomas posted). I'll try to find time to respond when I reach Pakistan, but until I get back 2 Canada in a month, expect me to be a ghost on da forumz...

Dude, there's no reliable bridge between Plato/Aristotle and QM. You'll have to reach desperately far to create one because it requires a dualistic interpretation of QM. And since QM is actually used to argue for monism (>>Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy - Monism), a dualistic-platonic...

muhahaha !!

you WHAT ?! :eek::eek:

I hope those quote marks were ironic, cuz the sky isn't actually blue : P @ Nicecupoftea i think you're the work of the "antichrist"

The official cliques of "learned Muslims" are mostly idiots, by the way, imo.

To put it simply, yes. But before you can tell the truth, you have to know what it (or "being" or "truth") is. The Greeks were mostly concerned with that in the beginning. Depends on the philosophy of particular philosophers. Aristotle, for example, as far as I remember (I might be mixing...

. p.s. In case I didn't make it clear enough above: the "6000 years" time-line has nothing to do with the Quran.

The modern "scientific method" was first formalized by Muslims (Ibn Haytam, Book of Optics). Yes, there's nothing in the Quran to contradict this. Actually, I think the original Aramaic of the OT is even compatible with geological evidence, as the word used is something like "periods" not "days"...

naw, my lil brother's the guitar nut I started with an acoustic like a decade ago, but i got bored (i had a really crappy acoustic, that might have had somethin 2 do with it)

I'm sure the guy that made this particular image meant it to be. But Muslims were using it well before there were any anarchists around. You'd think so wil, but when i brought up the subject with my friends, none of them knew. Actually, i didn't even know until I saw it mentioned in a...

Yea, the Prophet used a simple Black Flag. Most Muslims today don't know this. Thanks 4 bringing it up.