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  1. China Cat Sunflower

    Tao te Ching - part 1 chapter 2

    OK, so...we're still at Nothing. Well, not really. Chapter 2 implies that everything has a wobble. Appreciating this allows the essential quality of humility which, in turn, allows for a flexible nobility. How does one propose the the primal paradox of weakened strength? What is conscious...
  2. China Cat Sunflower

    Deists and scientists: peaceful coexistence

    I think I'm with CZ here. It doesn't seem like Kowalski wants to put a personal effort into communicating with us. I perused the linked material, but it was a collection of other people's thoughts from other forums. I'm much more interested in getting to know people and watching their...
  3. China Cat Sunflower

    what is better

    I did a sweat lodge thing one time. As part of the preparation, and under the guidance of the presiding Lakota shaman, I made a prayer tie out of bits of colored cloth with tobacco tied up into them. At the time I felt that the intention I put into the selection of the colors and order of the...
  4. China Cat Sunflower

    Former atheist, turned deist

    But... this requires some sort of preconception of God as a personality that can "speak" to you inside your head. My observation is that these other voices sound very much like another "me." Who puts the words in "the God inside my head"'s mouth? Seems quite schizophrenic and self-serving...
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    Former atheist, turned deist

    I don't understand, SG. What's the comparison? Chris
  6. China Cat Sunflower

    Former atheist, turned deist

    Funny stuff! "effectively" in this context means that you won't find the specific words, but rather a paraphrase of some sort which "effectively" renders the same rhetorical result. Don't mess with Grammar Man!
  7. China Cat Sunflower

    Former atheist, turned deist

    From Wiki: Types of agnosticism Agnosticism can be subdivided into several categories. Recently suggested variations include: Agnostic atheism Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not have belief in the existence of any deity, and agnostic because they do not claim to know that a...
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    Former atheist, turned deist

    The key word is "effectively." Chris
  9. China Cat Sunflower

    Former atheist, turned deist

    I've been both an atheist and a believer. I dislike the label atheist because rather than describing a position it describes a counter-position. If I was a color I would not want to be not green. OTOH, I can't honestly say that I believe. The truth is that I just don't know, so it's a leap...
  10. China Cat Sunflower

    How do feel when

    Well, for most things in my life I've found that conventional wisdom doesn't work for me. Sometimes, after long experimentation, I come to the realization that standard methods work best, but I always have to do things my own way. Pretty much everything I know I had to learn the hard way from...
  11. China Cat Sunflower

    Pew quiz on religious knowledge

    Pretty good for a Catholic! Chris
  12. China Cat Sunflower

    New thought on an old issue - Purgatory

    I'm sorry to hear that Q. My dad was killed by a drunk driver three days before Christmas. Chris
  13. China Cat Sunflower

    Pew quiz on religious knowledge

    From what I understand it was a US based survey. Chris
  14. China Cat Sunflower

    Pew quiz on religious knowledge

    Interesting. Jews are the smartest and Hispanic Catholics are the dumbest. I scored 100%. I rule! Chris
  15. China Cat Sunflower

    What's the beef with homosexuality?

    I think the answer lies in the negative reaction of subjugated populations to the abuses found in the practice of pederasty within Greco-Roman culture. In this sense it is an almost gut-level, anti-elitist reaction that is echoed in the foundational mythology that forms the basis of...
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    Does any one do the following

    That's really interesting Vaj. I actually started out reading Alice Bailey, which I found nearly incomprehensible. I moved over to Theosophy and started doing path working with the Arthurian Tarot, but at the same time I was reading the Vedas and trying to combine east and west like that. But...
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    Does any one do the following

    I see you were here just before me. See, when I got here I thought things needed to be stirred up, badly. I'm still sympathetic to stirrers. I think forums need argumentation to stay alive. Chris
  18. China Cat Sunflower

    What music are you listening to?

    Yeah, yeah! I'm totally down with this. How about Traffic? Cream, maybe? B sides of course. Chris
  19. China Cat Sunflower

    Your Two (Words) Cents Worth Presently

    flat fifth
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