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It's about having ones mind overcome by greed hatred and delusion, opening up the route for malevolent groupthink to take over. snippet from the Kalama Sutta: 7. "What do you think, Kalamas? Does [greed, hatred, or] delusion appear in a man for his benefit or harm?" — "For his harm, venerable...

So indeed, there is a distinction between the two terms, at least in origin. I admit that I may have some aversion to the term perfect, especially when applied to sentient beings. In my mind, perfect is tied to boring. (Ever notice how beauty marks are imperfections that draw your attention...

In my mind, there is a distinction between "Greater Self" and "Perfected Self." "Greater Self" can simply refer to your unconscious mind together with your conscious mind. I think everyone can agree to having parts of your psyche that you are not consciously aware of. "Perfected Self,"...

I can understand Platonic first form as an ideal. I guess "perfected self" would also be an ideal, much like the Red Mage in the Diabolicon. I can't expect a precise meaning when it is a subjective call. I can't know how you perceive and experience the color green, which is something that can...

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{I'm doing my due diligence in this dance between imagination and intellect.}

I guess I'm going to have to ask what exactly you mean by "perfected you" as the Platonic First Form.

So the Platonic first form is not the "perfected" you? I can go along with this.

Does not allow for evolution of Self--you are stuck with the form/mould you identify with. If Self can't evolve, then you are stuck.

If you identify Self with nama-rupa/Platonic First Form, you just might get stuck here in that thicket. ;)

Knock-knock! Who's there? {Pun on self-no-self}

The key is knowing that you don't know and making peace with that.

**holds guiness stout at the ready to shake up and spray**

Welcome aboard!

I never denied being one of those nastikas!

I try to remember to break the fifth precept at least 4-8 times per year.

I just made my first attempt at homemade soft pretzels from scratch. Half of them have already disappeared, so I thought I'd better take a picture before they all disappear. (Yeah @Cino I know, they aren't True Pretzels, boiled in lye. I had to use baking soda instead.) Now, I have this...

Happy Holidays!

Celebrating with eggnog chai!

I enjoyed the Earthsea series years ago. Lately, I've been thinking about picking up The Left Hand of Darkness, and my hesitancy to do so probably means that I really do need to read it.