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    Who is the real Gabriel?

    there are only a few as that article said, it gives examples of some abrogated verses; see link above; the wisdoms of abrogation can be gleaned from them too, for example in one verse Allah says 20 beleivers is enough for two hundred desbelievers [to fight], but then Allah abrogated that with...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    so basically the fakes have taken that saying and got people worshipping the creation!!! :D:D:D:( isn't it time you started learning from real sufi's Luni? ;)
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    Did Jesus Die?

    This is a sufi saying and not sure if it is a hadith too, and here is an explanation from one of the great sufi masters of this day and age as to what it means: Shaykh Nuh Keller on Wahdat al-Wujud (Oneness of Being) …”Belief in Allah” also entails knowing that he has no co-sharer in any...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    Quote: Originally Posted by And the day God speaks a word like "punish" or "hate" is the day a Monkey climbs out of my **** ...... Let me be perfectly clear .. God does not KNOW hate or punishment .... Thats mans miscreation !.... I fear this type of intransigence my dear Tony may make you...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    Quote: Originally Posted by Well again this mans mind will have to undo all of that .... you kill because you beleive in killing ..... that then has to be corrected .. I wouldnt want to have to deal with those lessons .... not because of God but because thats a big lesson to work on and undo...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    Quote: Originally Posted by [Yes and the only way to Know GOD is to Expereince God .... The question is do you want to KNOW God or Know a book ? Muslims experience a closeness to God, and not God himself; God is not an energy or spiritual entity for anyone to experience!; the highest level...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    unfortunately my dear Lunitik, everything you have said basically translates into polythiesm and idolatry; it dont take no einstien to figure out how too, so i'll leave you to work that out yourself I had a similar discussion not so long ago, and i'll post up those excerpts here to explain...
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    Who is the real Gabriel?

    ... However, as mentioned there remain a small number of verses which, as far as can be ascertained from the internal evidence of the Qur'an, have been superseded by other verses in the Qur'an. Ulum al Qur'an - AL-NASIKH WA AL-MANSUKH- SunniPath Library - Books
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    Who is the real Gabriel?

    Re: Who is the real Gabriel? or real Islam? The common notion of abrogation, that is, canceling of one law or code by another, is based on the idea that a new law is needed because of a mistake or shortcoming in the previous one. It is clearly inappropriate to ascribe a mistake in...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    The grevious penalty comes after death Lunitik, but this dont refer to all Christians; only those who have knowingly distorted the scriptures and those who adhere to it knowing that the truth is that Jesus [pbuh] was only a human Messenger of God and not God nor son of God: Those who say God...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    thats not correct radarmark for sufism is part of sunni Islam and it is accepted by literally all sunni Scholars; it's only the modern day Salafi's that oppose it and regard it as an invalid innovation, but Salafi's have strayed somwhat from the orignal sunni path sufism is considered to be a...
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    Who is the real Gabriel?

    ps: one important thing i should point out now is that adhering to the past religions [Christianity or judaism] does not depend on wether their scriptures are reliable enough or not, for the Quran clarifies that it has abrogated these religions and only Islam is valid now: Allah sent mankind...
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    Who is the real Gabriel?

    Also the Holy Quran comments on the attitude of the Jews in the following verse: They disbelieved in him though they knew him exactly they recognized their children, The Holy Quran says commenting on their situation saying "The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some...
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    Who is the real Gabriel?

    There is the description of Muhammad [saw] in the Torah and original Injeel [Gospel] too, but that verse is specifically refering to the Torah and the Jews; there were a few jews that came into Islam after recognising the Prophet [saw] and teachings of Islam after what is mentioned in the Torah...
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    Did Jesus Die?

    And thats not all Gab take a look at this: Jesus Seminar on the distortion of the Bible
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    Did Jesus Die?

    exactly, especially when that scripture is distorted too! ;)
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    Did Jesus Die?

    yes wrong, but right too :) basically, there is no conflict as such in that there is only minor disagreements regarding a relatively few hadith amongst 90 percent of the Muslims [those who make up sunni-Islam], but such differences results from the capaciousness of divinely designed diversity...
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