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    knowledge vs. belief

    real ? A quick point, though - wouldn't you also suggest that imagination is the foundation of science? After all, were people like Einstein and Boyle not imaginative in their thinking - simply in a particularly way? From Louis.... Interesting point . Before I retired, my job was to make...
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    What is "spirituality"?

    spirituality However, I don't really believe that institutionalized religion in itself has much to do with spirituality. Does that make any sense? From Louis... I'm inclined to agree. From my position as an impartial outsider, I percieve a difference between "religion" and "church" By...
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    Why Believe????

    I am ! to dig a little deeper in this soil, as it were... where does the "I" stop or begin? is it the physical form? is it the collection of the senses? is it an epiphenomenon of intelligence? is it the molecules that constitute the form From Louis... For me, it's simple. "I" live...
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    louis

    objective As to your question - heh, I'm not sure if anyone knows what "objective" is. From Louis... When I say "objective", I mean a part of the real world outside myself - not what THINK is there but what is ACTUALLY there, whether I know about it or not. As opposed to "subjective"...
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    divine inspiration

    faith Religious belief usually requires some form of heirarchical acceptance of "revelation revealed" by someone "divinely inspired" - or similar. That acceptance comes from various cues, but the result is usually reduced to the simple concept of "faith". From Louis... For me, the concept...
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    excellent !

    From Louis... No topic here - just looking for some place to compliment you and everyone else on the general excellence of this website. I've spent years trying to find something like this and I hope I never say anything strong enough to get myself barred. May I offer a pre-emptive apology...
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    is Evil real?

    evil From Louis... It depends on what you mean by "evil" . There's a line in the Bible that says something like "God made the universe and saw that it was GOOD " ( meaning stable, harmonious and being the way He liked things ) . Which implies that God had to know about "evil" (meaning...
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    Drugs and spirituality

    drugs From Louis... An ineresting point - one thing I've noticed about religeous belief is its resemblence to a drug. It's a form of DEPENDENCY - people say they NEED it - can't function without it - experience panic when they first try to go without it. It ALTERS PERCEPTION - causes...
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    What is "spirituality"?

    spirituality? Let me try to say it differently. I believe the spiritual person is one who thinks seriously about ultimate questions: Do a god or gods exist, and what does that mean for the individual, for the world, for the universe? Is there life beyond - after or before - what we recognize as...
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    mercy

    When one sees themselves as accountable for their actions, to whatever authority beyond them, they are much more likely to "play by the rules." With no accountability, there is no reward, and no (apparent) incentive to play by the rules, so why bother? From Louis... Forgive me if find...
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    knowledge vs. belief

    Plato plato said, "true things are ideas" but i believe the contents of those ideas must be true. as for healthy and unhealthy beliefs - what better discription of good and evil, heaven and hell or satan or god! From Louis... I notice you're quoting Plato. Pesonaly, I prefer Aristotle...
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    Why Believe????

    i searched and searched but could not find a place where "I" began and the parts quit being parts. Buddhism has, in my opinion, the answer to this question and it is quite startling and, once understood, completely changes ones world view. their answer is "there is no I." From Louis... I...
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    knowledge vs. belief

    what is spirit ? From Louis .... I'm sure you mean well, but your comments are no help to me at all because I have never had any conscious awareness of anything I could call a "soul" or "spirit". It's like trying to describe COLOUR to a blind man - using words "red" or "blue" won't work...
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    divine inspiration

    The problem for atheists etc is the fear of the unknown, not God. God is a known quantity which has been examined and found wanting in too many departments to be taken seriously by atheists etc. The unknown is what brings a chill down one's spine. From Louis... I, personaly, have no fear of...
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    knowledge vs. belief

    ] This I know as a fact; it is God's message to me. Will anyone believe it? From Louis... Exactly what I am trying to pin down ! How do you define "fact" ? Do you mean "real" because YOU had direct, personal experience of it ? Do you mean it must BE real because it FEELS real...
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    divine inspiration

    Ideas as to what actual physiological process is occuring is a repeated theme in speculative science - a reductionist thinking that absolutely must denigrate the process - and the person - experiencing it. From Louis .... Why must reductionist thinking "denigrate" anything ? Surely...
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    Why Believe????

    Oobe From Louis... I've had one of those so-called "out of body" experiences. I don't consider anything "magical" - just an indication that my mind seemed to share a "connection" that did come about through any of my physical senses. It happened like this : I was on an medical cart...
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    knowledge vs. belief

    From Louis... I once saw this question on a church pamphlet : " How do we know what's real ? " I considered that very unusual because most churches avoid thinking in that direction - some even have taboos against it. I didn't probe it at the time because I was a guest at that church...
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    You are wrong: what now?

    more wrong More from Louis.... I posted my first reply before reading ALL the other replies and now I feel I should add something.... I have never practised any form of religion and have been quite content for all my seventy years. So the question is reversed for me - what if someone...
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    You are wrong: what now?

    wrong?
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