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  1. badger

    Waiting for the Freeze!

    Cool and raining here. And the damn bus is late! But nothing like a normal November. :)
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    Ha ha! :) I attend Christian 'snack and chat' meetings quite often, I discover new info about hj at these all the time, last brilliant piece learned only a few days back. But I was enjoying tea and biscuit at one (a little while ago) when a lady in a group pointed at me and spoke out, 'What's...
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    I skipped through to the message where they ask for tithes, well, they mentioned tithes, something to do with continuing their work.
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    It's only useful in one single sentence, imo. Evil be who evil thinks That is writ large above Judges' seats in our Courts, shown in latin. Some of 'em need to read it more often, methinks.
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    Ah.... yes. Righteous decisions can jump from side to side, according to who is trying to make them. I need to bombard you with yet another question, what in your opinion is 'moral righteousness'? Maybe that word can fit mostly anybody's decisions?
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    Fair enough .. And I like Muhammad's proposal that we bring suffering upon ourselves through our deeds. That can apply to theists and non theists all.
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    Yeah, but that is a bit strange because there isn't a 'hell' for the Jews. Anyway, your point about people bringing suffering upon themselves through various kinds of self guilt, now that's what I would call 'common ground' because it can apply to mostly anybody but the psychotic, and I...
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    I guess that Muhammad taught judgement, a Muslim friend once told me that he wanted to succeed to an Islamic heaven where could laze in beautiful water gardens and be attended to by beautiful young ladies (dark eyed) for his needs, and be able to look over and down in to a hellish place where...
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    That wasn't very nice. This is why I need to repeat stuff. I say again, I take food and drink with Christians often, certainly each week, and a Catholic also sits at the same table.
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    You couldn't be more wrong. I take food and drink with Christians very often, at least weekly. Twisting 'Christians got it wrong' in to 'I hate Christians' is just that........ untrue.
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    I think that the Jehovah's Witnesses agree with that tenet, mostly. Salvation by actions. But many Christians believe in 'Salvation by faith alone'. But some of us think that this is all rubbish, Tony..... yet many non-theists do want a safer, fairer, kindlier world here and now. So we...
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    No True Scotsman! Any Christian who does bad things can't be a Christian. Good game. In my opinion much of Christianity does not practice what Jesus said. No. The thread title is 'There is no justice if atheism is true', I've needed to repeat this a few times. And that proposal is clearly...
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    Maybe that's what your religion believes....some kind of reckoning in the afterlife, but as an example, some creeds and churches of Christianity don't agree with you. Salvation through faith alone....how often have I heard that? And then there are the 'Pre-dispensation' Christians who...
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    It's correct English where I live. To ask whether an action was 'just', is asking whether that action was 'proper', or 'legal' or 'correct'. I guess that term is linked to the word 'Justice'?
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    So which of those two is just, in your opinion?
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    I've asked for a definition of Evil, but nobody seems to want to answer.
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    Can you prove that?....... Humans having a rational soul? It's no good just repeating that, over and over. But, anyway, where can I find justice amongst theists that does not exist amongst non-theists? I once drove my late wife to a Bahai open meeting where I met with a Bahai who was later...
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    Does a killer whale pay later because it snatched a baby seal? Does a hawk pay for its every stoop? Does a virus pay for the death of its host? Would a Bahai soldier (in a Bahai World) ordered to shoot somebody have a special dispensation from their god?
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    There is no justice if atheism is true

    The above was sent to Wil, but it caught my attention. What I need to know is, what is your definition of 'evil'? Can you tell me what that is? This reads like some kind of 'We are better because of who we are' or 'We are better because we fear a god'. Sadly, history demonstrates that this...
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    Waiting for the Freeze!

    OK. My wife had a Vitara for several years. She loved it but I encouraged her to change it for a Jimny in 2010. She changed that for an automatic one in 2014 when her left knee stopped working properly.
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