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    I agree that humans are really screwed up

    Quote: I whole heartly agree that the gospel is not just about following a set of rules. It is based on a relationship with God in which operating within the Law of God will bring a realization of God's love and purpose for one's life. So sin means miss the mark. I agree. But what is the mark...
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    I agree that humans are really screwed up

    OK fair point, I will transfer this type of discussion to the liberal christianity board, I wasn't aware that this board was purely literalist/fundamentalist. However when do you consider the historic christian faith to have begun? Are the books outside of the canon worthy of being included in...
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    Virgin Birth

    hmmmm, lol, and I guess the same question could be turned around. What proves that animals don't have souls? Interestingly the early christians identified the soul as the psyche. Ours obvioulsy more complex then the animal kingdom, creatures like dolphins and humpback whales however with their...
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    I agree that humans are really screwed up

    I believe it is very evident in the world. The whole way in which you view the world, and the nature of reality is a whole other thread, but I personally see the world and the people in it as a beautiful place. Sure there is ample sin, but I don't believe the original christians saw sin in the...
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    I agree that humans are really screwed up

    I completely disagree with the whole premise that humans are inherently screwed up. I don't think a baby is born into original sin but original goodness. The problems we have are due to ignorance and a general misunderstanding of who we are individually and who we are collectively, too often...
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    The Oil

    Thankyou Dondi, nice to meet you to. OK no oil at all. It happens all the time, we are so busy going about our business in our ego centred universe and we continually to do things (perhaps mistakes or what not) that we think make us happy because they appeal to our pleasure centre or whatever...
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    The Oil

    I think the oil is the consciousness of God. It's a reference to the level of consciousness we have attained. We are not a body with consciousness inside it. We are Gods pure consciousness formed into a body. I think the ones with low oil where materialistically minded and their perception of...
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    Genesis 3:3-4

    To all you guys who take the Old Testament as the literal word of God I would like to ask you a couple of questions. 1) Did Lots wife deserve to be turned into a pile of salt just because she looked back on the city she lived in while it was burning to smitherines? 2) Did the man who let...
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