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Pretty much every word uttered or written does... this is a great book tho...despite being influenced by his bias...

Note I don't subscribe to all of what ai says either... heck as time passes my beliefs evolve. And I don't agree with all I have said on the past (definition of in the past could be 2 nanoseconds ago!)

Religion: Organized System: Religion is a structured system of beliefs, practices, and rituals that are typically shared by a community or group. Emphasis on Rituals and Practices: Religions often involve specific rituals, prayers, and worship ceremonies that help adherents connect with...

I ain't denying you can't be both, nor either, nor does one imply the other...all are possible. Ai says... Spirituality is a broad term encompassing the search for meaning, purpose, and connection, often with something beyond the self. It can manifest in various ways, including religious...

Yes, that is what I see G!d as, natural law...the underlying principle. Man's law says don't run a red light you will get a ticket...as I see it that is to save you from G!ds law or natural law....two objects cannot occupy same space at the same time....death may result at the intersection if...

Ooo....oooo....mister Cartair (horschack reference for aging US audience) I so wanna answer but will hold off. But I do believe requiring a belief in G!d to be spiritual is a very limiting constraint, and that there were spiritual folk prior to the concept of gods or G!d. But I will wait...

Agree ... would love to hear from @RabbiO this interpretation... The portion discussing other messiah over the years rings true with what I have heard from.jewish friends...'there were a lot of prophets back then and many who claimed messiah ' And then there are the number of mentions in the...

We ain't 16 anymore lol, we have learned that there is more to know than we ever knew.

I don't deny the premise, while I have issues believing we are living in a computer simulation or dream....I am "agnostic" about it as well. But I do wanna discuss/explore "as it is lived today". If today references time, and implies there was a time when it wasn't an illusion.

An aside or three... (I wish our forum were threaded. So my mind's response would not derail anything. Someone takes a new twist and that is discussed on a new thread as the original post and comments keep on going...alas) This reminds me of reading someplace that Genesis 1 is G!d thinking...

Yes, I came to ask @iBrian how he could leave Shiva out of the holy trinity! Shiva is what allows it all imo...our earth would not exist without worms and compost

I just wonder what he would think...

This is similar to Unity... God is all there is and everywhere present, human beings are divinely good, thoughts have creative power, prayer and meditation connect us to God, and we must live the truths we know. Unity emphasizes God's omnipresent love and the inherent goodness of humanity...

That is interesting... do you think it is because the Gita is read as allegory or metaphor and open to individual interpretation?

Similar.to the question I ask....why does the one above all need our worship or praise? I can grok one wishing to explore what one doesn't know, the human experience, just as I would like to know what the cat @Phyllis Sidhe_Uaine is thinking.... but for one above all to have such ego it needs...

Makes me wonder what Jesus will think when he returns... the last of his first earthly incarnation was hauling that cross and then hanging there among the other crosses on Golgotha I imagine that would not be his preferred symbol of his life and teachings, the manner in which he was executed.

As the second post I've seen today...I must admit all I have done is read the te ching a couple times and of course the Tao of Poo and the Te of Piglet all of which were long enough in the past to deserve a revisit, so thanx! A little perusing tho has made me order The Zhuangzi

That is physics...a couple principles objects in motion...equal and opposite reaction...two objects cannot...in my belief if ya add the find the rest you find the TOE...the underlying principles which allow this existence imo.