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thats interesting, thanks for that.

to be honest I am not that clear on the distinction between grovelling and worship. On Sunday I was at Church and sang a song with this in the Lyrics. its stuff like that, sounds like groveling, I will try and elaborate a bit, but not today,

I see a lot of people Grovelling to God at Church and mistaking it for Worship or am I confused ? I am no longer comfortable with Grovelling to God so what is worship and how is different grovelling and how do they get mixed up if you think they do ?

nice lamma

Be blessed my Muslim Brothers and sisters :)

a mate of mine taught me that chant years ago not heard it for a long time, what have you got against Christians ?

I prefer pot to crack anyday :eek:

if you say so ;) but my point in this thread was if you want an Islamic perspective you would be better off going to an Islamic forum as some people here have made Islam into what they want it to be not what it is. Rammadan Mubarack BTW :)

do you know much about Apache webserver then Brian. I am getting some problems on one, bit baffled at the moment.

I like your style bro. Welcome :)

what do you mean ?

walaycum salaam :)

what who where :confused:

if you say so salty master ;)

is that on google maps or something, do you have a link ?

well if not you then the author of the article does this sort of thing appeal to you ? whoever wrote this crap is clearly a hate filled and ignorant :eek:

do you have a chip on your shoulder, a large one ?

Say you start off with a nice Top of the Range Mercedes Benz but over time you start replacing the parts with say Fiat parts now after a number of years all the Mercedes parts have all gone and basically its all Fiat. Now some people would still like to call it a Mercedes perhaps because it...

I see what you mean but I tend to view the Old Testament as historical so that it actually happened at least a lot of it did, I know that some people it as being metaphorical and all sorts maybe that can be read into but at the same time a lot of really happened including the bad bits.

I would suggest an Islamic forum, knowledge of Islam is a bit thin on the ground here :)