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Thanks Scott: What you are basically telling me that you are not willing to share what prophecies of the Mahdi did the Bab fulfill. I raised this question because it is one statement which the Bahais make most liberally - Bab fulfilled the prophecies of the Mahdi - at least, the Bahais I...

I do have a different point of view on this. As I mentioned earlier, that we too do not permit personal interpretations of traditions. Secondly, we do have a filtering mechanism - the most prominent of these is the Quran itself, plus the process of veryfying the antecedents of every reporter...

uh huh...your observation is correct. any way, I am happy to be here. I am learning so much with the interaction with yourself and the others. So if not posting my web site is a pre-condition for me to continue to participate in the discussion, so be it! "Inna Hadayhus Sabeel. Imma Shakerawn...

:) I dont even know what Macassar Oil is...am going to look it up on google...right now...!! Respectfully yours, as always Imran

Thanks. If you read my web site, especially the section of the Bab, you will see that I am fairly proficient in Arabic and Persian. so no issues there. I have the entire Dalaelus Sabah. If you like I can send it to you. If you like, I can give another location where the book is available in its...

Scott: I could not agree more. It is not for the clergy to interpret the Quran. We ourselves condemn such clergy. A tradition says "Curse of Allah and the angels be upon the one who offers his own interpretation of the Quran." We are extremely concious of this and I repeat, we condemn it if...

Brian: You are correct. I erred in putting up my question. And I accept that. My humble apoligies to Scott to whose post I replied I think. My tone of my question would have been perceived as one questioning the viewpoint sarcastically. I apologise for that. There is no such intention. This is...

When you make such statements liberally, you should preceede it by saying that "in my humble opinion, my view is..." as these interpretation are entilrely your own. Our prophet's (pbuh) inpterpretation is totally tangential to what you have quoted above. In fact the traditions about the twin...

You asked for my view earlier. I gave it. But how is this question about Iran (a political issue) related to the prophecies of the Bab? You are asking me to post my question as if I have been hiding it for all this time! And who am I to manipulate what I want to hear? I have not given any...

Art, the Bahais told us that the Bab fulfilled the prophecies about the 12th Imam. In the previous quote, you brought one tradition from Dawn Breakers from Imam Sadiq (as) liberally narrated by Shoghi which I clarified was absent in any book. And I also requested that you inform me or Shoghi...

Scott: Once again, these interpretations are your own and tangential to what the prophet and the Imams told us. So we will leave it at that. I notice, that you keep on wavering to other topics whenever the question of the Bab comes up - sometimes to Iran, sometimes to my web site, the Holy...

Re: The question of prophecies fulfilled: Thank you, here are my responses. Why in an symbolic sense. And once again, which prophecies did he fulfill even if it be in a symblic sense? I recognise that the Shaykh school is an important connection and I have written about it on my web...

Slipperiness or otherwise does not matter to me. Can you enlighten me on how the Bab fulfilled the prophecies of the Hidden Imam from Islamic sources. Changing the topic to Iran, Mohammed miracle of the Quran etc is not something I am going to fall for. It is such an assertive statement made...

Nope, I am not falling for that. "Bab fulfilled the prophecies of the Hidden Imam." What were these prophecies? We are not discussing miracles here. Regards, as always Imran Shaykh

Scott: you're hijacking this thread!! (just joking!) :-) Scott, lets finish the discussion on the Bab being the Mahdi please. Inshallah, if Allah grants us life, we can always discuss about the proofs of the Quran, which incidentally both Muslims and Bahais believe in. But the bone of...

I have seen this web site and read each word of it. While I do not wish to dismiss it, I would definitely like to make 3 points: 1. There is no author to the web site which seriously impacts its credibility. 2. It does not even have a feedback mechanism if one wishes to question what is...

Thanks Art, once again for a very helpful link. Is there something on this topic from an Islamic perspective. Regards, as always Imran

Uh, huh. We're back to Iran. Why can't we answer the question. Which prophecies of the Mahdi did the Bab fulfill. When I read this, I wonder, why I am the only person who is accused of hijacking threads. Regards, as always Imran

Thank you for a very good link. The Shiite point of view is perfect. One can expand on it a lot more. But overall very good link. The ciritical question is in the bahai viewpoint - Bahais believe that Bab fulfilled the prophecies of the 12th Imam. Obviously these were Islamic prophecies. Which...

Incorrect: The Quran were present at the time of the Prophet (as). It was compiled and made into the present day Quran as we see it today after the lifetime of the Prophet. Quran was revealed over 23 years. The Prophet identified each and every verse and indicated its position in the...