Out of the Garden

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Since Adam & Eve were chased out of the Garden of Eden after having fell away from God, their descendants (us) were born out of the Garden with the curse of the original sin they committed.

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life​

Does it show anywhere in the bible that any individual, couple, family or nation were allowed to re-enter the Garden of Eden on earth ?

Do you think, it has happened, is happening or will happened in the future concretely ?
 
Since Adam & Eve were chased out of the Garden of Eden after having fell away from God, their descendants (us) were born out of the Garden with the curse of the original sin they committed.

Genesis 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life​

Does it show anywhere in the bible that any individual, couple, family or nation were allowed to re-enter the Garden of Eden on earth ?

Do you think, it has happened, is happening or will happened in the future concretely ?



well according to the bible the earth is going to be brought back to paradise conditions and the gathering of a great crowd is going on
right now so that they can get through the GREAT TRIBULATION REVELATION 7;9-10,14And it will be these ones that will go on to live in a paradise earth .
 
Jesus who walked with them in the garden and kicked them out. It is only through Jesus that paradise will be re-established.
 
Maybe returning to the garden depends upon our personal choices. While you're talking about cherubim and flaming swords, the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 says that someone must crush the serpent's head. It reads literally like its about killing a snake, but we know it is a prophecy about something much more important and more spiritual. The snake's death may represent going back past the cherubim into the garden. (This depends on what the cherubim really means, since cherubim is considered a mythical creature sort of like part bird, part lion or something like that.) Nobody has ever seen Cherubim except in art or visions, but it may be that the Cherubim with the fiery sword is a duel aspect of the prophecy about the snake. Snakes definitely represent the flesh, so killing the serpent could represent being crucified with Christ. Perhaps the Cherubim's sword destroys the flesh? We know Jesus was 'raised up' like the serpent in the wilderness, that the works of the devil could be destroyed through his death. Another thing to consider is that they were cast into the wilderness to the East of the garden, so to return they would have had to go West. The tabernacle and the temples all had a directional setup that seems similar. You enter from the west and go east, go through various obstacles including an altar before you can read the holy, holy of holies, etc. In the holiest place is the ark, which could maybe represent the Law, the tree of life, etc. Also the ark is guarded by cherubim.
 
the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 says that someone must crush the serpent's head. quote]



yes indeed ,this certainly was a far reaching prophecy, and the out working of that first ever prophecy in the bible, is now well along .



and Jesus has a very big part to play in the outworking of Gods purpose for the earth.


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that old serpent satan the devil will eventually have his head crushed and that is a very fatal blow.

but Jesus is the one that had the much smaller wound ,and that was not fatal at all ,because when Jesus was put to death he was resurrected .

yes that first ever prophecy in the bible has great meaning , and it runs through the whole of the bible .



it is not refering to a litral woman at all . but there has certainly been some emnity between those two seeds down through the centuries, and the final blow to that satan the devil will come to be .



And I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.”
GENESIS 3;15
 
In the Koran, the afterlife is sometimes referred to as the Garden. Is that intended to be a kind of this-worldly "end of times" view rather than an "after you've left the planet" view?
 
Maybe returning to the garden depends upon our personal choices. While you're talking about cherubim and flaming swords, the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 says that someone must crush the serpent's head. It reads literally like its about killing a snake, but we know it is a prophecy about something much more important and more spiritual. The snake's death may represent going back past the cherubim into the garden. (This depends on what the cherubim really means, since cherubim is considered a mythical creature sort of like part bird, part lion or something like that.)

Anything like the Jewish legendary bird the Ziz?

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Since God created Adam as a couple (man and woman) and they were chased out as a fallencouple before they had children, do we reenter the Garden once we are an unfallen couple ? Is it the condition for the cherubins to let us through ?
 
Is it the condition for the cherubins to let us through ?



the conditions would depend on these things.... mildtempered


Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth. matthew 5;5


also meekness
But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.psalm 37;11



and righteousness
The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it.psalm 37;29


and uprightness and blamelessness

For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it
proverbs 2 ;21



 
kherubiym "cherubim" is the same as Aramaic kruviyn borrowed into Greek as "griffin". It has the hindquarters of a bull, the forequarters of a lion, the wings of an eagle, and the head of a man (mentioned in Ezekiel somewhere; pictured on the gates of Nebuchadrezzar, and similar in concept to the sphinx). It represents the four quarter signs Taurus, Leo, Scorpio (perceived as a bird rather than a scorpion in ancient times), and Aquarius, which are where the equinoxes and solstices were c. 1500-3500 BC, and soon will be again ("this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius" means the spring equinox is starting to be in Aquarius; that's where the winter solstice was in the ancient times.
 
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