I need a Christian and a Jew!!

i tried to comment on the "america" thread that:

my point here, really, is that you can't single out "the US and the west" alone - they were not the only people "playing chess"; what about the cold war? the soviets as-was? the iranians? nobody here comes out smelling of roses, not even the iraqi people. why did the new government see fit to exclude jews from the list of exiled iraqi communities who were invited to re-apply for citizenship and come back and help rebuild the country?
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it's just plain stupidity.

b'shalom

bananabrain
 
If you need help with anything I am more than willing. I am a fundamental, conservative, true Christian who does not take liberties with the text and only relies on Scripture and ideas supported strictly with Scripture. I consider myself as Paul says "a vine grafted in" and therefore adopted into the seed of Abraham, the birthright of the spiritual Israel, and the covenants of the forefathers including David. In this respect, I am a Christian as well as an Israelite or Jew, not by blood but by spirit and truth.

If you are looking for "mainstream" ideas or "liberal" ideas, then I am not who you are looking for.
 
Bleedin typical, just get started and the net got cut off for 10 days arrgghhh, technology herumph!!

Sen McGlinn said:
living the religious life in today's world, and dealing with its difficulties, do interest me.
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Hi Sen, great to have you on board thank you. Shall pop over to your blog for a read now and look forward to sending you some questions for your perspective.

Damn have started reading your blog, it's great so I shall be up half the night now lol

bananabrain said:
can you turn off the "word verification"? it's making it really hard to comment, because it's not working.
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have switched them off BB

bananabrain said:
it's just plain stupidity.
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Sorry not understanding you BB, do you mean what I have written is plain stupidity or the exclusion of Jews for re-entry was stupidity ... or both?

ARMyers said:
If you need help with anything I am more than willing. I am a fundamental, conservative, true Christian who does not take liberties with the text and only relies on Scripture and ideas supported strictly with Scripture. I consider myself as Paul says "a vine grafted in" and therefore adopted into the seed of Abraham, the birthright of the spiritual Israel, and the covenants of the forefathers including David. In this respect, I am a Christian as well as an Israelite or Jew, not by blood but by spirit and truth.

If you are looking for "mainstream" ideas or "liberal" ideas, then I am not who you are looking for.
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Hi, not looking for mainstream at all, one of the things I hope over time to show is that you cannot point at Muslims, Jews or Christians and say they believe XYZ, because we all have different groups that believe different things.

One of my biggest issues is the finger pointing, pigeon holing which people of all our faiths do and I hope in a very small way to combat that and show my dress does not mean I am a terrorist and you being a Christian does not mean I can generalise about you either.
 
Hi Bobx, good to see you're still alive and kicking.

Your extensive historical knowledge will be most appreciated :)
 
Snoopy said:
Hey Sally, seen this today and thought of you!!!:)

BBC NEWS | UK | 'Real Islam' just a phone call away


s.
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Thank you very much Snoopy, shame it is so expensive as it will limit who can call but it's brilliant to see Muslims taking an active role in combating radical thinking .. let's hope it's a success.

Of course real radicals will not call but hopefully their families will so they can put their errant strayers back on track.
 
Muslimwoman said:
Thank you very much Snoopy, shame it is so expensive as it will limit who can call but it's brilliant to see Muslims taking an active role in combating radical thinking .. let's hope it's a success.

Of course real radicals will not call but hopefully their families will so they can put their errant strayers back on track.
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I noted it had started in Egypt. :)

s.
 
Snoopy said:
... 'Real Islam' just a phone call away
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I would be more optimistic if this did not come from al-Azhar, but say from Cairo university: better still, from a UK university. Al-Azhar is itself a substantial part of the problem, perpetuating ignorant and supersistious readings of Islam, condemning scientific studies of the Quran and Islamic history, spreading lies and hate about religious minorities. The idea that British Muslim youth will be turning there for guidance is, to me, not reassuring at all.

Among the recent fatwas of al-Azhar:

"“Surely Islam has not allowed respect for any other religion other than what Quran has ordered us. Rather it has prevented that there be in a city the practice of any religion other than Islam and then Christianity and Judaism. The reason being that all the other religions are not legitimate and against the public order.... Surely it is necessary for all of these people who have harmed the interests of Islam and the country that they should not be seen alive and if this should not happen then they should make sure that they never utter anything against Islam"

h t t p:/ / fatwasf orbahais.word press.com/ 2008/ 10 /30/ al-azhar-speak-out-against-bahais-and-the-bahai-faith /
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Imagine how that advice will work out for the relationships between Hindu and Muslim youth in Birmingham, for example. We have already seen how it works out for the Bahais in Showraniyyeh:
htt p:// w ww. bahai-egypt.org/ 2009/ 04/ graphic-details-on-burning-of-bahai.ht ml

It would be really nice if I could post links here! I have to "submit reply" time after time with more and more spaces in the urls until it is acceptable
 
Sen McGlinn said:
I would be more optimistic if this did not come from al-Azhar, but say from Cairo university: better still, from a UK university.
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Sorry are you suggesting that a UK University has a better or even equal knowledge of Islam, as Al-Azhar?

Sen McGlinn said:
Al-Azhar is itself a substantial part of the problem, perpetuating ignorant and supersistious readings of Islam, condemning scientific studies of the Quran and Islamic history, spreading lies and hate about religious minorities.
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You would have to quote some of the Al-Azhar opinions so we can discuss them rather than a broad sweeping statement.

However, for every "strange" fatwa they issue I can find one that supports peace and Islamic principles, like Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa and his fatwa stating that using weapons of mass destruction is haram.

Of course they also came out with the adult co-worker suckling opinion ... strictly speaking they are of course right but logic and the Islamic principle of modesty and not commiting zina would tell us it was never intented for an adult male to suckle an adult female so he could work with her ... it's just silly.

Sen McGlinn said:
The idea that British Muslim youth will be turning there for guidance is, to me, not reassuring at all.
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Well I'm afraid we can't have it both ways. Since 9/11 there have been calls for Muslims themselves to speak out against extremism and to physically do something about it and yet when they do they are "the wrong kind of Muslims" or not "our kind of Muslims" (translate as "the ones that agree with us").
 
Sen McGlinn said:
It would be really nice if I could post links here! I have to "submit reply" time after time with more and more spaces in the urls until it is acceptable
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Of course you can post links here. What you do is to use the html codes url= and /url in square brackets: after url= you put the http etc. for the web site, and in between the url= and the /url you put whatever kind of text you want, like this:
This links to the bahai-egypt.org site, "graphic details" article

You do not have to put the html codes in by hand, although that is how that I did that above. You can highlight the text, and click the button that looks like a globe with a two-link chain on it: that prompts you for the URL, and creates the url= and /url tags.
 
The anti-spam filter means that there's a restriction of posting links in the first 10 posts - but after that, you should be fine. :)
 
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