The whole creation is made in the image of Adam and Eve

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soleil10

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This is a response to a question from Netti-Netti.
It is a large subject so I decided to create a new thread.

God created man and woman in His image and the creation in the image of man.
Man is the microcosm of the macrocosm (cosmos)

We describe the sun as father, the moon as mother and the stars as children.

In Genesis 2:7 God formed man of dust from the ground (our physical body)
and He breathed into our nostrils the breath of life (our spirit)
In the same way the bible says that He created the heavens and the earth, the spiritual world and the physical world.

The whole world is created in a pair system like Adam and Eve from the particles to man, + and -, male and female.

If we look at the earth for instance, the Oceans represent around 70% of the planet while our body is around 70% water.

The plants are like the hair of the earth. Our skin is like the earth crust,
our muscles like the substrata, our veins like the rivers or underground water ways, our skeleton, the rocky mantle and our bone marrow, the molten core.

We have 5 viscera and 6 entrails, there are 5 great seas and 6 continents (Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe.) We have 12 sets of ribs. There are 12 months and 24 solar terms.

The creation is a reflection of man. God planned His creation with the end in mind. We are God's body
By fulfilling the 3rd blessing in Genesis, we can be co-creator like God our heavenly parent.

We were born in the mind and heart of God before he made the creation
 
soleil10 said:
You know the answer to this question. Why ask ?
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No I don't know exactly. If you are of the mindset that the universe is less than 10k old and A&E were created by some being molding mud and blowin in their noses just after he put dots up in the firmament and called them stars....

I'm afraid all I can do is read and stay on the peripheral of the conversation.

Now if you'd like to discuss the ramifications of the Christian creation myth on current and past society and life...I'm ready to explore!
 
wil said:
No I don't know exactly. If you are of the mindset that the universe is less than 10k old and A&E were created by some being molding mud and blowin in their noses just after he put dots up in the firmament and called them stars.... I'm afraid all I can do is read and stay on the peripheral of the conversation.Now if you'd like to discuss the ramifications of the Christian creation myth on current and past society and life...I'm ready to explore!
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Ok, now I understand where you are coming from. I usually do not get stopped by this type of issue when reading the bible. I can jump between facts and symbols once I understand the overall picture
To answer your question. Yes these are metaphors.
 
we did go over this before in an earlier thread. maybe someone can dig it up. God created man first, just as angels appear as men, and Jesus was a man. That has a lot to say about the traits of God.
 
soleil10 said:
This is a response to a question from Netti-Netti.
It is a large subject so I decided to create a new thread.

God created man and woman in His image and the creation in the image of man.
Man is the microcosm of the macrocosm (cosmos)

We describe the sun as father, the moon as mother and the stars as children.

In Genesis 2:7 God formed man of dust from the ground (our physical body)
and He breathed into our nostrils the breath of life (our spirit)
In the same way the bible says that He created the heavens and the earth, the spiritual world and the physical world.

The whole world is created in a pair system like Adam and Eve from the particles to man, + and -, male and female.

If we look at the earth for instance, the Oceans represent around 70% of the planet while our body is around 70% water.

The plants are like the hair of the earth. Our skin is like the earth crust,
our muscles like the substrata, our veins like the rivers or underground water ways, our skeleton, the rocky mantle and our bone marrow, the molten core.

We have 5 viscera and 6 entrails, there are 5 great seas and 6 continents (Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe.) We have 12 sets of ribs. There are 12 months and 24 solar terms.

The creation is a reflection of man. God planned His creation with the end in mind. We are God's body
By fulfilling the 3rd blessing in Genesis, we can be co-creator like God our heavenly parent.

We were born in the mind and heart of God before he made the creation
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I think you have "one" point absolutely correct. Creation was for Man. Whether that be a "human" or some other sentient as well, that we are not aware of, who have the same issues we have as intelligent mortals...

the rest, though intrinsically interesting, has, um flaws...

The earth for example is 99.99 percent land, earth, stone, metal normally solid stuff, it's just surfaced with a film of water...

There may be seven seas, but there are five oceans, six if one considers the whole of the Great Lakes as an inland ocean, and seven if one considers the water body beneath the great plains of the US.

the sea contains 3% salt in its waters, for the most part. We have decidedly less in our bodies...about 1.7%

I think I made my point...:eek:
 
BlaznFattyz said:
we did go over this before in an earlier thread. maybe someone can dig it up. God created man first, just as angels appear as men, and Jesus was a man. That has a lot to say about the traits of God.
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The only "fact" we know, is as part of the "God head", Jesus took the form (was born), a male, who grew and died as a man. The other two parts of the God head, though carrying both male and female aspects within, are neither...

Through Jesus, they experience the "human" aspect of existence, but not directly, not personally...well to a point (I bet when we get to see them together, we will find scars on the "wrists and ankles" of all three, where the nails were driven deep...

Angels, appear to individuals in forms that will assist that individual in at least beginning to comprehend, let alone not dying outright of a heart attack. However, like the "Father" and the "Holy Spirit", they are neither male, nor female, under their "normal" conditions of existence. They simply contain the elements of both.

Come to think of it, so do we...we just happen to manifest one way or another, that which is dominant in our make up.

some things to consider...
 
Quahom1 said:
I think you have "one" point absolutely correct. Creation was for Man. Whether that be a "human" or some other sentient as well, that we are not aware of, who have the same issues we have as intelligent mortals..the rest, though intrinsically interesting, has, um flaws...
The earth for example is 99.99 percent land, earth, stone, metal normally solid stuff, it's just surfaced with a film of water...
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What I meant is that 70% of the surface of the earth is water

Quahom1 said:
may be seven seas, but there are five oceans, six if one considers the whole of the Great Lakes as an inland ocean, and seven if one considers the water body beneath the great plains of the US.
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(Wikipedia) After the Europeans discovered America, some people used the term Seven Seas to refer to seven of the biggest bodies of water in the world: The Arctic Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the Mediterranean Sea, the Caribbean Sea, and the Gulf of Mexico.

Some modern geographical classification schemes count seven oceans in the world: The North Pacific Ocean, the South Pacific Ocean, the North Atlantic Ocean, the South Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Southern Ocean, and the Arctic Ocean.

Quahom1 said:
sea contains 3% salt in its waters, for the most part. We have decidedly less in our bodies...about 1.7%
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soleil10 said:
What I meant is that 70% of the surface of the earth is water


(Wikipedia) After the Europeans discovered America, some people used the term Seven Seas to refer to seven of the biggest bodies of water in the world: The Arctic Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, the Mediterranean Sea, the Caribbean Sea, and the Gulf of Mexico.

Some modern geographical classification schemes count seven oceans in the world: The North Pacific Ocean, the South Pacific Ocean, the North Atlantic Ocean, the South Atlantic Ocean, the Indian Ocean, the Southern Ocean, and the Arctic Ocean.



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Oh, it is a debate you crave, is it? lol

I think I understand the seven seas better than you realize, and I do not need wiki to tell me about what I have sailed...:D

But obviously you knew little about the under ground seas we have, that are the size of small oceans...nor did you take on the Great Lakes (watershed, and Hudson Bay, all inclusive).

And your point was to what, detract from my original statement, that creation was meant for man, but not for the reasons you gave?

Are you one of those, have to be dead right types? :eek:

If so, you are...right.

Q

Oh, and I do like your "name" Sun 10, isn't it? in French

pronounced: Solay dees...interesting.
 
Symbolic Hell

As you say, creation was made for man. As Jesus said "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath."

Why must we slavishly manipulate symbols instead of talking about what they mean? Ok, so words cannot fully express, but sometimes its like "What the heck are we talking about?" Let the outsider in on the joke. If people are getting totally lost because of symbols, then lets set those aside for a minute. A genuinely good idea will win people over by itself, and the symbols are for kids, to add depth, and to keep us on track. It is totally unacceptable for someone with honest intent and showing good faith to approach seeking help and to walk away bewildered. What about basic hospitality?
 
Quahom1 said:
Oh, it is a debate you crave, is it? lol
I think I understand the seven seas better than you realize, and I do not need wiki to tell me about what I have sailed...:D
But obviously you knew little about the under ground seas we have, that are the size of small oceans...nor did you take on the Great Lakes (watershed, and Hudson Bay, all inclusive). And your point was to what, detract from my original statement, that creation was meant for man, but not for the reasons you gave? Are you one of those, have to be dead right types? :eek:If so, you are...right.
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I just gave you the information I used for my thread. That was all.
I am not craving for a debate.

I appreciate the additional information you contributed. It helps me to see other people point of view.

Yes Soleil means sun in French.
 
soleil10 said:
I just gave you the information I used for my thread. That was all.
I am not craving for a debate.

I appreciate the additional information you contributed. It helps me to see other people point of view.

Yes Soleil means sun in French.
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Bon, Je comprende. Suis je hereiux a faite votre connaisance, Soleil...:D
 
K, Sunny,
going along with your train of thought,
Explain to me then, why humans "cycle" isnt parralel with the planet./
Hmmmm 28days? Maybe we are all Moon people?
 
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