The Role of a Rabbi

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BB made a comment in another about rabbis:

BB said:
i'd rather have less of both. they both create jobs for the boys. more lawyers - they all have to make a living, so as if by magic there are more lawsuits. more rabbis - they all have to make a living, so as if by magic suddenly bog roll needs to be kasher le-pessah and everyone is using the kezayit measurements of the chazon ish. it drives me nuts. in my book, as per the mishnah, a rabbi should have a proper job as well and do the rabbing in his spare time. rabbi akiva? had a job. rashi? had a job. rambam? had three jobs. i usually don't go for that "decline of the generations" argument but in the case of rabbis i can sometimes be convinced.

It got me thinking that it might be interesting to discuss the role of a rabbi. Clearly there's some distinction to be made between a rabbi as a halachist vs a rabbi in any other role, where the needs of the community have shifted over time. What I'd like to suggest is that the classical role of rabbi ought not be the career of the rabbi, that the career rabbi is fulfilling other needs of the community and, in an almost kabbalistic sense, ought to work to reverse the need for a career rabbi, thus in a sense taking upon himself the Sisyphean project of removing the need for his own occupation. That is to say that I think a major goal for a pulpit rabbi ought to be enabling congregants to perform the majority of functions that have developed as a matter of shifts in culture and literacy within the Jewish community so that a rabbi as such is no longer needed. I am not certain that, even through the cumulative efforts of all rabbis, that goal could ever be reached.

More concretely, a rabbi is not required for bikkur cholim, to leyn, to drash, to serve as baal tefilah or to do any number of things. It seems reasonable to think that a rabbi would at some time do each of the above, but it isn't the job of the rabbi-as-rabbi to do any of this. Rabbi-as-rabbi can be less of an issue in the liberal community, but the Sisyphean nature of the project is all the more evident there. In both cases I think it should still be the responsibility of a career rabbi to educate not just on practical halachah, but working with text in order to engage in dialogue with it oneself. The end result will vary depending on the flavor of Judaism, and where the rabbi-as-rabbi is more relevant, while he may not write himself out, he at least reduces the frequency with which he's going to be called upon to serve in that role.

At the same time, there are some shifts that seem to make certain, more universal practices, better limited to rabbis. Performing marriages has a secular component as well as a Jewish component. That's not to say that a non-rabbi couldn't become a JoP and perform a marriage that is acceptable according to both halachah and secular law. It's not to say either that performing marriages should be considered a full-time job. As a matter of convenience it makes sense to think that rabbis would continue to perform marriages and that empowering other people to perform marriages would be a bit unnecessary. At the very least there are other, more pressing functions to be taught and encouraged.

An additional layer of the career rabbi's duties comes from the fact that many people aren't yet even at the point where they'd want to work toward being a part of the community's displacing of the rabbi, and so there's the further need to inspire people, to help them connect with Judaism in an empowered way so that this seems like a worthwhile goal for themselves. But even if not all of a particular congregation feels this way, at least there will be some people who want to displace the rabbi. Certainly in a given congregation there will probably be members who want to get rid of the current rabbi, but that is a separate issue.

I realize that the needs of different communities vary. The degree to which a rabbi is called upon to poskin for the community and the degree to which his community are living engaged Jewish lives both alter what is needed. For more liberal communities what I've stated seems very true to me. For less liberal communities I'm not sure that's the case so much. The problem in more conservative communities seems to be that mindsets have developed by which very little can be answered without consulting the rabbi. Still, the idea of empowering the congregation seems to be the same and perhaps reaching the goal equally difficult. And even in liberal communities, I think the rabbi should be empowering people to engage with halachic sources. It's just what comes about as a result of that which might vary.

Those are some of my current thoughts. It does seem to me that Judaism's going through some major shifts right now, both the ideological structure that unite and divide individual Jews as well as the way in which individual Jews identify with those structures. I don't think it's very clear what the Jewish community will look like in 50 years or what the role of rabbi will entail. I do think it's all worth pondering over.

What do you all think?
 
Good OP, Dauer,

Originally Posted by BB
more lawyers - they all have to make a living, so as if by magic there are more lawsuits. more rabbis - they all have to make a living, so as if by magic suddenly bog roll needs to be kasher le-pessah and everyone is using the kezayit measurements of the chazon ish.
BB, pretty low expectation, don't you think, becoming a lawyer or Rabbi because one needs to make a living ?

How about helping people, teaching them, doing service for them, doing scholarly work ? Maybe many people go into these professions for the wrong reasons, is that part of the problem ?

Gotta run, more later.
 
Avi! Wait!

Don't run. Walk! You might trip and hurt yourself.
 
I made it back.

It got me thinking that it might be interesting to discuss the role of a rabbi. Clearly there's some distinction to be made between a rabbi as a halachist vs a rabbi in any other role, where the needs of the community have shifted over time.

The traditional scholarly work of a Rabbi was a Halachist, but in contemporary Judaism I would think a variety of approaches to scholarly work would be possible. The type of books that R. Zalman and the Renewal movement are good examples of this.


What I'd like to suggest is that the classical role of rabbi ought not be the career of the rabbi, that the career rabbi is fulfilling other needs of the community
I agree.

and, in an almost kabbalistic sense, ought to work to reverse the need for a career rabbi, thus in a sense taking upon himself the Sisyphean project of removing the need for his own occupation.
I do not agree, there will always be a need for a Rabbi.



That is to say that I think a major goal for a pulpit rabbi ought to be enabling congregants to perform the majority of functions that have developed as a matter of shifts in culture and literacy within the Jewish community so that a rabbi as such is no longer needed. I am not certain that, even through the cumulative efforts of all rabbis, that goal could ever be reached.
You are neglecting the leadership role that the Rabbi plays. This can never be replaced by the congregants, unless one of them becomes a Rabbi. I have been studying notions of leadership recently, and I think it has powerful implications.

More concretely, a rabbi is not required for bikkur cholim, to leyn, to drash, to serve as baal tefilah or to do any number of things. It seems reasonable to think that a rabbi would at some time do each of the above, but it isn't the job of the rabbi-as-rabbi to do any of this. Rabbi-as-rabbi can be less of an issue in the liberal community, but the Sisyphean nature of the project is all the more evident there. In both cases I think it should still be the responsibility of a career rabbi to educate not just on practical halachah, but working with text in order to engage in dialogue with it oneself. The end result will vary depending on the flavor of Judaism, and where the rabbi-as-rabbi is more relevant, while he may not write himself out, he at least reduces the frequency with which he's going to be called upon to serve in that role.
More of the same issue. Just as in an academic environment, the Rabbi must practice teaching, research and service. These functions can vary widely depending upon the need of the community and the Rabbi's capabilities.

At the same time, there are some shifts that seem to make certain, more universal practices, better limited to rabbis. Performing marriages has a secular component as well as a Jewish component. That's not to say that a non-rabbi couldn't become a JoP and perform a marriage that is acceptable according to both halachah and secular law. It's not to say either that performing marriages should be considered a full-time job. As a matter of convenience it makes sense to think that rabbis would continue to perform marriages and that empowering other people to perform marriages would be a bit unnecessary. At the very least there are other, more pressing functions to be taught and encouraged.
Rabbi's have been around since the time of Moses, probably earlier. They are not going to become obsolete in the near future.


An additional layer of the career rabbi's duties comes from the fact that many people aren't yet even at the point where they'd want to work toward being a part of the community's displacing of the rabbi, and so there's the further need to inspire people, to help them connect with Judaism in an empowered way so that this seems like a worthwhile goal for themselves. But even if not all of a particular congregation feels this way, at least there will be some people who want to displace the rabbi. Certainly in a given congregation there will probably be members who want to get rid of the current rabbi, but that is a separate issue.
The role of the Reform Rabbi is certainly going to continue to evolve. Large numbers of converted congregants seems like it could be an issue in the future.





I realize that the needs of different communities vary. The degree to which a rabbi is called upon to poskin for the community and the degree to which his community are living engaged Jewish lives both alter what is needed. For more liberal communities what I've stated seems very true to me. For less liberal communities I'm not sure that's the case so much. The problem in more conservative communities seems to be that mindsets have developed by which very little can be answered without consulting the rabbi. Still, the idea of empowering the congregation seems to be the same and perhaps reaching the goal equally difficult. And even in liberal communities, I think the rabbi should be empowering people to engage with halachic sources. It's just what comes about as a result of that which might vary.
This section got me wondering if in addition to studying Torah and Talmud, if the modern Rabbi should place greater emphasis on studying the relevance of these historical works on current thinking.

Those are some of my current thoughts. It does seem to me that Judaism's going through some major shifts right now, both the ideological structure that unite and divide individual Jews as well as the way in which individual Jews identify with those structures. I don't think it's very clear what the Jewish community will look like in 50 years or what the role of rabbi will entail. I do think it's all worth pondering over.

What do you all think?
Dauer, I am not sure if you intended to take this post in this direction, it seems like the focus of the post was whether Rabbi's will be replaced by congregants. Is there some specific reason that you are thinking about this issue ?
 
Avi,

I do not agree, there will always be a need for a Rabbi.

I don't disagree. That's why I called it a Sisyphean effort. There's no reaching that point. It's more about educating the congregation in all the Jewish stuff that originally wasn't the job of a rabbi.

You are neglecting the leadership role that the Rabbi plays. This can never be replaced by the congregants, unless one of them becomes a Rabbi. I have been studying notions of leadership recently, and I think it has powerful implications.

I know synagogues with lay leadership as well as chavurot with no rabbis. Being a community leader doesn't have to be a full-time job for a designated rabbi. But my point is more about what I said in the response above this one. It's about teaching and putting that teaching into practice. It's about engaged Judaism.

This section got me wondering if in addition to studying Torah and Talmud, if the modern Rabbi should place greater emphasis on studying the relevance of these historical works on current thinking.

I see the main thing as connecting in a meaningful way with the texts, whatever that way of engaging is.

The other stuff I didn't respond to because I think a lot of it stems from misunderstanding. Sorry I wasn't more clear.

-- Dauer
 
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