Aging

[shawn]

1) No one has an obligation to die, but lets see you try to avoid it . But yes, we have an obligation to turn the world over to the next generation, before we mess it all up.

2)That is a groundless fear. For an active mind and body life always presents great challenges and for some young people life displays a loss of meaning. It is not a matter of age, but perspective .

You miss the point m8.
The idea here is:
Is it wrong for people to seek life extension technology?
Sure we say it is good for people to optimize their health, but if technology opens the door for people to live hundreds of years, why would it be considered wrong of people to access that for themselves?
Some suggest that they should just die after their allotted hundred years and make way for the next generation and I have read just that opinion stated by some.
So I wanted to see what people here thought, but I see I am fishing in a shallow pool.
Oh well.

 

[shawn]

Bubonic plague and cholera are natural, too. Sewers and clean water are unnatural.

The world is a water filter if you haven't noticed.
And clean water is found in many places and is quite natural.
I know of many places within an easy drive from my house where you can drink right from the stream with no worries.
Natural as can be.
Plagues may be natural, but not common.
More along the line of being periodic infestations.

 

[Dogbrain]

The world is a water filter if you haven't noticed.
And clean water is found in many places and is quite natural.
I know of many places within an easy drive from my house where you can drink right from the stream with no worries.
Natural as can be.
Plagues may be natural, but not common.
More along the line of being periodic infestations.

First, you proceed with the invalid assumption that "natural" means "best way". Once the falsity of that assumption was pointed out, you backpedal and qualify. There is nothing inherently "good" about "natural" nor "bad" about "unnatural"--or are you going to now swear off use of forums like this one, which rely upon unnatural objects like computers?

 

[Dogbrain]

Hydrogen is in 90% of all matter. Our human bodies store it in our tissues with liver being the most, then the intestines, kidney, heart, lung, and spleen having the least amount. As we get older, hydrogen depletes our bodies causing us to age

Really? Can you point me to the actual scientific journal papers (not "just-so stories") that have brought this to light. I work in geriatric research and am unaware of this hypothesis.

 

[Dogbrain]

You miss the point m8.

So I wanted to see what people here thought, but I see I am fishing in a shallow pool.

In other words, everyone who doesn't think like you do or answer as you want them to answer is stupid.

 

[Hopetek]

And a bit more:

I am impressed with your thinking and would like to communicate. I database cures for disease and energy answers and sort of make a specialty out of adressing some of the myths that people are taught to squash a paradigm shift away from the Oil and Big Pharma
domination of the world with hell on earth technologies. When there are more heavenly ways. For instance there is not really a population problem in a universe with unlimited space. You can travel over the states in a plane and you go forever before you come to a city. The people are plugged in at the neck to the power grid, jammed into cities like sardines in a can and all the while there are power supplies that do not use oil. The Joseph Papp motor, the Kinoto magnetic motor, Dingle in the Phillipines and Stan Meyer showed cars running entirely on water. This means that people could move out into the open land, not to speak of living on the ocean or expanding space exploration for people instead of weaponry. Instead they just run down the value of people and run up the value of oil. Look at the mess now with it pumping into the sea. The sustainable technologies do not even pollute, so the reputation that more people pollute or destroy the atmosphere is a lie. Someone did a tabulation where you could fit all the worlds population into one county or some such. We can not only believe in life more abundant after life, we have to believe in life more abundant here....."thy kingdom come, thy will be done, ...on earth as it is in heaven".

 

[shawn]

There are some amazing new technologies (and some that aren't so new but aren't being used).
I am all for using our common sense (before it atrophies) and technological advances to make life better.
We have some huge challenges though in the monopolies/cartels who are squeezing all they can from old and not very efficient tech, for a variety of reasons.
This aging reversal technology looks very interesting, but costly. I would like to see how it develops.
perhaps they will find another compound which can be made cheaply in bulk without being dependent on astragalus.