Kundalini

Intrepid,

I think it does represent the head chakra, which is something that most Buddhists are unaware of. It does seem strange that such a common Buddhist image would not be understood by most Buddhists, but that is how I see it.
 
... IMHO, the 100 petalled lotus, or sahasrara padma cakra, is... the brain... within this, is, supposedly, all the elements of the universe... letters, music, concepts -- the intellectual mind...

this would never be a head dress... a head dress, surely, would be something else, something outside a being, not a inner thing... a head dress is an adornment... not something you're born with... a head dress is something you're given, something you earn/deserve; something.... noble...

The crown cakra is not the 1000 petalled lotus, and the 1000 petalled lotus has nothing to do with Devi kundalini. As the name implies, Kundalini is Devi; a goddess. Kundalini is... a force, and energy, the "inner wind/water" that wafts about the nadi, the ida and pingala and susumna, etc... Kundalini is the shakti, the... compliment of the God, (in the microcosm... the psychic energy, as Devi, and you, the body, as God). The head dress would be more akin to... Sri Lalita... or ... the halo of saints?

Kundalini isn't buddhist. It's Hinduism. Tibetan buddhism does have some parallel terms/anologies, but this "energy" isn't from ... "god/goddess"... In buddhism, this energy is self-propelled, rare, and... not really what buddhism, as a theory, is all about...

Ornaments, in buddhist iconography, are often symbolic, and often, those symbols are similiar to those of Hinduism, yet... buddhism does not allow for monks to wear ornaments...
 
intrepidlover said:
No doubt. I wonder then why Buddhism is always described as an atheistic belief system.
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Would you call electricity or gravity a God?

Buddhists see "God" as a "formless field of benefaction" not as a person or a being or a creator. You don't pray to it... you are already "it". Meditation merely reveals a nature that's always existed.

That is why Buddhism can be described as atheistic.
 
Sam Albion said:
... IMHO, the 100 petalled lotus, or sahasrara padma cakra, is... the brain... within this, is, supposedly, all the elements of the universe... letters, music, concepts -- the intellectual mind...

this would never be a head dress... a head dress, surely, would be something else, something outside a being, not a inner thing... a head dress is an adornment... not something you're born with... a head dress is something you're given, something you earn/deserve; something.... noble...

The crown cakra is not the 1000 petalled lotus, and the 1000 petalled lotus has nothing to do with Devi kundalini. As the name implies, Kundalini is Devi; a goddess. Kundalini is... a force, and energy, the "inner wind/water" that wafts about the nadi, the ida and pingala and susumna, etc... Kundalini is the shakti, the... compliment of the God, (in the microcosm... the psychic energy, as Devi, and you, the body, as God). The head dress would be more akin to... Sri Lalita... or ... the halo of saints?

Kundalini isn't buddhist. It's Hinduism. Tibetan buddhism does have some parallel terms/anologies, but this "energy" isn't from ... "god/goddess"... In buddhism, this energy is self-propelled, rare, and... not really what buddhism, as a theory, is all about...

Ornaments, in buddhist iconography, are often symbolic, and often, those symbols are similiar to those of Hinduism, yet... buddhism does not allow for monks to wear ornaments...
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yes the "head dress" may not have been something that is worn but a symbol of an inner state. i have always thought though that the 1000 petalled lotus depicts kundalini having passed through the scalp and hence connecting with the source.
 
I, too, would not describe Buddhism as an atheistic belief system. I would say that Buddhism is not concerned with whether there is a God or not. They are just not worried about it.
 
Chakraman,

I have heard that the head-chakra's aura gives off thousands of undulations as it glows, which look somewhat like petals of a flower. I understand that these thousands of undulations have for untold centuries been symbolized as arms, flower petals, etc.
 
nick the pilot,
i see, a symbol that is actually similar in actual appearence :) a better way of putting it, i agree.

i note lower chakras have petals to.

they say dmt is released at birth and death. i woulkd also guess that it is being released by an awakened being, perhaps constantly. k once said "to enter the house of death whilst still living."

of course here it is ego death and dying to one's past as hates, antagonisms and joys etc so as to live wholly in the present. the resurrection being the twice born after this as a man alive and not a spiritual entity in the literal sense. tangent............>
 
hi nick,
dmt is apparently manufactured and/or released from the pineal gland. i would say it's part of the bio-chemical element of kundalini. some plant brews like ayahuasca also contain it and hence can instigate a short term kundalini experience. note this is not like most entheogens that poroduce experiences similarly as this is 7th chakra.

many people relate death like experiences on ayahuasca which i can concur with. smoking salvia is another rather harsh way to instigate the dmt experience. when i read of experiences of awakenings by mystics is has seemed identical to me of what would happen if you started manufacturing and releasing dmt constantly.

seratonin is i believe a 6th chakra bio-chemical hormone. don't quote me exactly on this though but the idea is there i think...
 
does not the lotus also grow up from the watery, murky, muddy depths to bloom on the surface to face the full glory of the sun. this being an analogy of man's struggle to rise above the lower "murkier" base levels of existence and to reach his full potential.
 
chakraman said:
does not the lotus also grow up from the watery, murky, muddy depths to bloom on the surface to face the full glory of the sun. this being an analogy of man's struggle to rise above the lower "murkier" base levels of existence and to reach his full potential.
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I like that analogy and perhaps that is why the crown chakra was named thousand-petalled-lotus in the first place.
 
For centuries the lotus flower has been the symbol of humanity's path to full potential, self-awareness, and enlightenment -- from mud (our mundane physical world) to a beautiful flower (higher spirituality). It is also a symbol of a person's actual Kundalini that rises up through their spine. This is also the meaning of the Tibetan mantra "Om Mani Padme Aum," the jewel in the lotus. The jewel is our Higher Self, which has yet to fully emerge from within our 'selfish self' into a full dazzling expression of our true Self (and will finally emerge at the moment of enlightenment).
 
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