Reincarnation: not RIP but BRB?

wil said:
Let's say I accept reincarnation. I got questions.

Is it only humans? Or do all bugs and amoeba too?

If so can we reincarnate as different species?

How many times? Are there people who have been returning since first life (3.7 billion years), or only since homosapien (300 thousand years) or per bible (5700 years)?

How many of the 8 billion folks here today have been here before, out of the 117 million that have been born? Assuming the previous answers indicate the trillions of other life forms did not have the potential to reincarnate as human.

Now you know why they didn't like me in Sunday school
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:) Theist Hinduism has nearly all answers:
1. Not just humans but all bugs and ameba too, all life.
2. Yes, we do. But it is not in our hands. Gods decide it based on our 'karmas'.
3. They say 8.4 million times (Lakh Chaurasi). That is the figure they give for types of life.
4. Only Gods know or the divine accountant, ChitraGupta. Statistics come under his department.
5. No. All life has the potential to be born as humans. But human form is a rare and precious occurrence (one or two in 8.4 million). These are the odds against it. That is why they say that we should waste our life and should not abandon our 'dharma' (duties).
 
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Kabir said:
"Tune rāt bitāyī soy ke, divas bitāyā khāy, hīra janam amol thā, kaurī badle jāy."
(You have spent your nights in sleep, and days in eating; this birth was a priceless diamond, you are selling it for a cowrie shell.)
 
wil said:
Let's say I accept reincarnation. I got questions.

Is it only humans? Or do all bugs and amoeba too?

If so can we reincarnate as different species?

How many times? Are there people who have been returning since first life (3.7 billion years), or only since homosapien (300 thousand years) or per bible (5700 years)?

How many of the 8 billion folks here today have been here before, out of the 117 million that have been born? Assuming the previous answers indicate the trillions of other life forms did not have the potential to reincarnate as human.

Now you know why they didn't like me in Sunday school
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If I've learned nothing else, it is that nobody has certain knowledge. Some people have certainty, but only in terms of their confidence in something, not in demonstrable knowledge on these matters. Once upon a time, I naively thought that there were people out there who actually, factually knew the answers to these things. But it's like my husband has told me for years "In reality, their guess is no better than yours."

EDIT - Amending my reply -- The information shared about Hinduism is something I will explore more to see whether or not the information stands up to any scrutiny.
 
Aupmanyav said:
:) Theist Hinduism has nearly all answers:
1. Not just humans but all bugs and ameba too, all life.
2. Yes, we do. But it is not in our hands. Gods decide it based on our 'karmas'.
3. They say 8.4 million times (Lakh Chaurasi). That is the figure they give for types of life.
4. Only Gods know or the divine accountant, ChitraGupta. Statistics come under his department.
5. No. All life has the potential to be born as humans. But human form is a rare and precious occurrence (one or two in 8.4 million). These are the odds against it. That is why they say that we should waste our life and should not abandon our 'dharma' (duties).
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Do they get their answers from the Vedas? From somewhere else? From some kind of direct revelation in meditation or ... something?🤔
 
Aupmanyav said:
Kabir said:
"Tune rāt bitāyī soy ke, divas bitāyā khāy, hīra janam amol thā, kaurī badle jāy."
(You have spent your nights in sleep, and days in eating; this birth was a priceless diamond, you are selling it for a cowrie shell.)
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Who is Kabir? A prophet? A god or entity of some kind?
 
TheLightWithin said:
EDIT - Amending my reply -- The information shared about Hinduism is something I will explore more to see whether or not the information stands up to any scrutiny.
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It cannot. It is a theist belief. This is from the Puranas. Find faults in the Advaita view (non0duality), if you can.
TheLightWithin said:
Do they get their answers from the Vedas? From somewhere else? From some kind of direct revelation in meditation or ... something?
🤔
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Vedas had a completely different scheme than what I have mentioned. They did not have reincarnation. Theirs was an Indo-Europian belief as the Norse or Vikings had. Ancestors went to Valhalla (Pitriloka - World of the Ancestors, where they drank and dined).
 
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TheLightWithin said:
Who is Kabir? A prophet? A god or entity of some kind?
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Kabir (Kabirdas) is supposed to have been an orphan (1,440 CE), raised by a poor Muslim couple who were weavers; one of the most revered sages of Hinduism and Sikhism. His Guru was Ramananda.

"Jāt na pūchho sādhu kī, pūchh lījiye gyān; mol karo tālwar kā, padī rahan do myān"
(Do not ask the caste of a sage, ask what he knows; haggle for the price of the sword, don't worry about the scabbard)
Quality of sword and workmanship is the important thing.

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Kabir - Wikipedia

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Kabir with Namadeva, Raidas and Pipaji. Saints of Hinduism and Sikhism, all dirt poor.
 
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Aupmanyav said:
It cannot. It is a theist belief. This is from the Puranas. Find faults in the Advaita view (non0duality), if you can.

Vedas had a completely different scheme than what I have mentioned. They did not have reincarnation. Theirs was an Indo-Europian belief as the Norse or Vikings had. Ancestors went to Valhalla (Pitriloka - World of the Ancestors, where they drank and dined).
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So the Puranas are scriptures written later that introduced different doctrines and different metaphysics?
 
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