Solving the worlds problems in a day

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I've been thinking about life and mankind and where we are as a species. I'm not sure if this is the right board for this thread, but here are a few of my thoughts. I imagine the human race to still be children learning how to live effectively.

We have various religions, and philosophies that attempt to help us grow, but until we look at life itself, and remove ourselves from our fantasy worlds, I'm not sure we will ever grow past superstition.

For me, the goal is to coexist peacefully with all living things and/or to be caretakers over the earth. The question is how? What will it take for mankind to grow up? Life can be harsh, and we often times disconnect ourselves from what we need most, "reality".

With that being said, how do you propose we go about growing past our destructive natures. How do we change our world. What would be the best, most effective way to change our world for the better? Can we solve the worlds problems, or are we destined to remain as we are?
 
Well...that's kind of tough: solving the world's problems and all. I guess I would start out by saying that economics is the major factor. Most people in the world are dirt poor and barely surviving. One of the things religion tries to do is say "be happy with your lousy lot and don't blame the rich." But religion also preaches rightness and justice. How can there be justice when the rich get richer and the poor get poorer? There is really no way around the idea of a more equitable distribution of resources and wealth, but each person wants to hold on to what they've got and we've seen that the real effect of a socialist bureaucracy is nepotism and favoritism just like capitalism except even more inefficient, so it's hard to say what the practical answer is. Maybe personal anarchy to whatever extent one is able to effect it, but even that implies a level of luxury unavailable to the masses.

Chris
 
the only thing that would solve the world's problems in one day would be the complete elimination of the most destructive force on the planet....man.
 
wil said:
the only thing that would solve the world's problems in one day would be the complete elimination of the most destructive force on the planet....man.
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are you suggesting a cull ?
 
I am not a fan of Rush Limbaugh's, but one of my favorite quotes of his.

"Man cannot destroy the earth, all man can do is make it uninhabitable for man. The earth will survive."

then he returned to his old self and added...

"and that should make the Libs happy"
 
China Cat Sunflower said:
Well...that's kind of tough: solving the world's problems and all. I guess I would start out by saying that economics is the major factor. Most people in the world are dirt poor and barely surviving. One of the things religion tries to do is say "be happy with your lousy lot and don't blame the rich." But religion also preaches rightness and justice. How can there be justice when the rich get richer and the poor get poorer? There is really no way around the idea of a more equitable distribution of resources and wealth, but each person wants to hold on to what they've got and we've seen that the real effect of a socialist bureaucracy is nepotism and favoritism just like capitalism except even more inefficient, so it's hard to say what the practical answer is. Maybe personal anarchy to whatever extent one is able to effect it, but even that implies a level of luxury unavailable to the masses.

Chris
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What if justice is in the eye of the beholder? More often than not, the rich pursue wealth above all else, so in this light they deserve to be wealthy. The majority of us are not willing to do what it takes to become wealthy. We are rather more geared towards simple survival in a dog eat dog world.

Maybe it will take a collapse of our government(s) and/or a collapse in capitalism, and in our financial structures before the answer is able to present itself? I don't know? What I do know is we are like children. We are still learning, and growing, and evolving as individuals and as a collective body.

I hope we find an answer before we end up destroying ourselves, though. I remain hopeful, but not so hopeful that I expect to see an answer anytime soon, as in the next few hundred years or so ....
 
wil said:
the only thing that would solve the world's problems in one day would be the complete elimination of the most destructive force on the planet....man.
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You're probably right, wil ..... I hate to think it, but your view is not so far from the truth I'm afraid.
 
With that being said, how do you propose we go about growing past our destructive natures. How do we change our world. What would be the best, most effective way to change our world for the better?
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What does one Not understand by the word "Slaughter" ---Lunch will be ready just when your shift ends?

Is it true: "What goes around comes around" is only for the conscious ones?

slaughterhousecattle.bmp


For those "without a clue" ---You are what you eat ---and there's no will be no place to hide when it becomes your turn to lay down your day-dreams inexchange for the abyss. Ironically, it will be quite Humanely administered as per the Gavone-Conventions.

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the only thing that would solve the world's problems in one day would be the complete elimination of the most destructive force on the planet....FLESH EATING man & his FLESH EATING ECONOMY.

HOMEWORK:
Q. Who knows how to say "meat" in German?

Lets cheat emass ---The ANSWER IS: Fleisch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey baby serve me some Fleisch. Oh Yeah! Ah . . . one of the "Seven Beauties" of the world.
 
Have you read David Stone's books? He talks of the evolution of the mass/collective coming about now because some guru figure out there has moved up a notch and left a vacancy. His book is a collection of gold threads - theology. My son was born Uranus Pluto 1966 meaning he represents radical mass movements that started in that time frame. It's in square aspect now so it can only be seen within - is it in my imagination only or did I really see the gates opening to the mentality that recognizes we're all in this together. That's a nice change and the next generation will be another change. I'm optimistic. Our job is to be aware as we possibly can. I think Eck said that as well.
 
Gatekeeper said:
I've been thinking about life and mankind and where we are as a species. I'm not sure if this is the right board for this thread, but here are a few of my thoughts. I imagine the human race to still be children learning how to live effectively.

We have various religions, and philosophies that attempt to help us grow, but until we look at life itself, and remove ourselves from our fantasy worlds, I'm not sure we will ever grow past superstition.

For me, the goal is to coexist peacefully with all living things and/or to be caretakers over the earth. The question is how? What will it take for mankind to grow up? Life can be harsh, and we often times disconnect ourselves from what we need most, "reality".

With that being said, how do you propose we go about growing past our destructive natures. How do we change our world. What would be the best, most effective way to change our world for the better? Can we solve the worlds problems, or are we destined to remain as we are?
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The best and most effective way to change our world for the better, starts with the moment we decide to change ourselves into a better person. The world is made out of human beings who have been granted with the attribute of freewill. If we all try to do our best to redirect our freewill towards the right choices, the world will be a better place for all to live.
Ben
 
Gatekeeper said:
... Life can be harsh, and we often times disconnect ourselves from what we need most, "reality".

With that being said, how do you propose we go about growing past our destructive natures. How do we change our world. What would be the best, most effective way to change our world for the better? Can we solve the worlds problems, or are we destined to remain as we are?
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I'd say we need a good dose of reality mixed with hope for a better future.

We are aware of major current problems... almost 1 Billion starving, so many living in poverty, thousands of children being "legally" murdered through abortion, corrupt governments and corporations, lies being spread about what is healthy & what isn't...

Some aren't aware that they are problems. Some are just ignor-ant in lack of awareness, but some are ignorant only in what they choose to see, justifying & concluding so their own peace in apathy can continue. What many don't realize is that this lack of awareness is slowly killing us all, in one way or another. IE: Supporting certain companies that drill & screw with the livelihood of many (basically killing them) breeds resentment & what we are trained to call "terrorism."

Becoming aware of how we affect ourselves & others & living consciously are what we need to do.
 
Ben Masada said:
The best and most effective way to change our world for the better, starts with the moment we decide to change ourselves into a better person. The world is made out of human beings who have been granted with the attribute of freewill. If we all try to do our best to redirect our freewill towards the right choices, the world will be a better place for all to live.
Ben
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Absolutely right. :)
 
Persona said:
I'd say we need a good dose of reality mixed with hope for a better future.

We are aware of major current problems... almost 1 Billion starving, so many living in poverty, thousands of children being "legally" murdered through abortion, corrupt governments and corporations, lies being spread about what is healthy & what isn't...

Some aren't aware that they are problems. Some are just ignor-ant in lack of awareness, but some are ignorant only in what they choose to see, justifying & concluding so their own peace in apathy can continue. What many don't realize is that this lack of awareness is slowly killing us all, in one way or another. IE: Supporting certain companies that drill & screw with the livelihood of many (basically killing them) breeds resentment & what we are trained to call "terrorism."

Becoming aware of how we affect ourselves & others & living consciously are what we need to do.
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In the name of Good God Almighty . . . I will be presumptous and say to you Persona:

Read "Three Sisters" or "The Cherry Orchard" by Anton Chekov.

Aside from electronic speed and loss of cottage industry economics ---LIFE HAS NOT CHANGED for the middle-class quality of life ---so all such sentiments about the future wellwishes for society at large where famouslyy recited on stage as far back as the 1880s.

"Oh how will we live 100 years from now. Will we be happy? . . . "

We modern man have accomplished all the avenues and hues of idealised scenarios of living.

It has always marveled me that during recent antiquity, the Greeks & Romans & Egyptians knew they indeed lived surrounded by the wilderness that stretched far accross 7 continents.

During recent antiquity the Wilderness went on for miles and miles.

So, IMO it seems logical that any denisen of the Pax Romana [or any proxy of the time & given region] would never entertain the idea of venturing out beyond the Fine things of life amongst the industrial production centers that were the Ideal of 'Civilisation'.

It has always marveled me that those introspective thinkers of the time were explicitedly aware of their Honorable Stature above the unwashed & savage masses living in the hills and dales of the yet uncharted expanses of the frontier Wildernesses.
 
Though we are thinking of a lot of problems while trying to solve all problems . The dominating countries of this world are very much selfish and they always looking for their own benefits but they are not thinking of others right . I want more that's okay but why to do that through the way by which anybody is falling in trouble ? So its not possible til the end .
 
mzaib said:
Though we are thinking of a lot of problems while trying to solve all problems . The dominating countries of this world are very much selfish and they always looking for their own benefits but they are not thinking of others right .
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same as most individuals really, but if enough individuals change then they can change society as societies are made up if individuals.

I want more that's okay but why to do that through the way by which anybody is falling in trouble ? So its not possible til the end .
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The majority of us are not willing to do what it takes to become wealthy.
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I disagree: the majority of us just don't have the advantages this or that wealthy person has in life. Consider Bill Gates. Was it by sheer will power that Gates achieved billions of dollars? No. Gates, with the help of his wealthy father, a lawyer, was sent to a private school at a young age. In seventh grade, Gates went to a school with a computer club, and during this time, most colleges didn't even have a computer club. Gates was able to put hours of programming practice in throughout his early life. Now we have three lucky factors: family background, place of living, and a time-sharing terminal. Here's another factor: time period. Yes, he was willing to become wealthy, but I think a lot of people willing to become wealthy and remain unwealthy also lack the advantages successful people like Gates just so happened to have because of pure luck.

Maybe it will take a collapse of our government(s) and/or a collapse in capitalism, and in our financial structures before the answer is able to present itself? I don't know? What I do know is we are like children. We are still learning, and growing, and evolving as individuals and as a collective body.

I hope we find an answer before we end up destroying ourselves, though. I remain hopeful, but not so hopeful that I expect to see an answer anytime soon, as in the next few hundred years or so ....
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Here is my answer: advanced aliens will teach us how to solve the world's problems in a day. It could happen!
 
Ben Masada said:
The best and most effective way to change our world for the better, starts with the moment we decide to change ourselves into a better person. The world is made out of human beings who have been granted with the attribute of freewill. If we all try to do our best to redirect our freewill towards the right choices, the world will be a better place for all to live.
Ben
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Distribution of freewill throughout the human population probably varies. We all have different brains, after all. In other words, I wish it was as simple as changing ourselves, but life, as in most cases, seems more complicated because of the interaction between our individual capacity of freewill and the environment.

We know the world is becoming one village. New problems arise that were less common in the old world: How do I coexist with my neighbor, who adheres to a different religious system? How do I live without screwing up the environment? What are the positive and negative effects of the high quantities of materialism in the world? How do we avoid using emerging technologies for evil? So many questions.

I guess the best answer I can think of right now involves education and technology. Education to help us avoid bad decisions (and increase our inner thought life) and technology to help us create a better world (and change negative outer environments), but none of that can happen in a day. Those are a few vague ideas I have.
 
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