The Hoax of the Three Days and Three Nights

All right, not more about it. As long as we both are in agreement that prophecies in the NT do not happen. And about the holes you claim to be in the Tanach, show me one. I am all ears.
Ben

That refers to the resurrection. The sign of jonah refers to the resurrection. Its like a pregnancy the whale being the female who carries the union of the male and female and gives birth after the 3 years...:rolleyes:
 
That refers to the resurrection. The sign of jonah refers to the resurrection. Its like a pregnancy the whale being the female who carries the union of the male and female and gives birth after the 3 years...:rolleyes:

Actually a salamander is pregnant for three years but they just discovered a new whale , I am sure there is one out there that is pregnant for 3 years so its not crazy.
 
That refers to the resurrection. The sign of jonah refers to the resurrection. Its like a pregnancy the whale being the female who carries the union of the male and female and gives birth after the 3 years...:rolleyes:


Okay, so what does Jonah's dream/vision point to, something in a religion other than the one of Jonah's, the Prophet? It makes no sense. And neither it does to imply that it points to bodily resurrection when, being Jonah a Jewish man, he did not believe in bodily resurrection.
Ben
 
Actually a salamander is pregnant for three years but they just discovered a new whale , I am sure there is one out there that is pregnant for 3 years so its not crazy.


Can't you see that the Hellenistic guy who wrote the gospel attributed to Matthew was only too happy to score one more prophecy to enhance the Pauline doctrine of Jesus' resurrection? Why do I say Pauline doctrine? Because, as Paul himself confessed to his disciple Timothy, it was according to his gospel that Jesus had resurrected. (2 Tim. 2:8) It means that such a doctrine was not part of any other gospel being preached at the time.
Ben
 
Can't you see that the Hellenistic guy who wrote the gospel attributed to Matthew was only too happy to score one more prophecy to enhance the Pauline doctrine of Jesus' resurrection? Why do I say Pauline doctrine? Because, as Paul himself confessed to his disciple Timothy, it was according to his gospel that Jesus had resurrected. (2 Tim. 2:8) It means that such a doctrine was not part of any other gospel being preached at the time.
Ben
So you do not believe in resurrection?
 
The only thing about bodily resurrection I believe is that the idea was fabricated by Paul, according to 2 Timothy 2:8.
Ben

Resurrection occurs when the soul and spirit unite with the body causing a standing up of the inside with the outside making the outside perfect. This is a reality and does occur. JESUS body did resurrect as did all the saviours sent over the years. However the scriptures talk about marriage. The highest union is two....one male and one female that even though two are also one as well. The original human being was in this state. A very complex being consisting of two halfs that make up one whole. This is infinite life. You can live for eternities separate but cannot live infinite without your other half. This is why scriptures refer to bride, marriage and end time. Alot of people think it just refers to the individual body as a bride but there really is no such thing as a male bride which is why JESUS is called the bridegroom and prophecy is about mary magdalene(end time female not the one back 2000 years ago) that is the bride representing all females as the bride for this union. The mary magdalene doctrines were prophecy yet to be fulfilled , jesus didnt get married back then if he had everyone would be in infinite condtion. The eutruscan mummy scroll that was wrapped around the mummy of a woman is record of this prophecy. However, this isnt just about earth. Its also about heaven. The woman has to be human but also divine as in incarnated into the human egg because its a new heaven and a new earth not just a new earth.
 
Resurrection occurs when the soul and spirit unite with the body causing a standing up of the inside with the outside making the outside perfect. This is a reality and does occur. JESUS body did resurrect as did all the saviours sent over the years. However the scriptures talk about marriage. The highest union is two....one male and one female that even though two are also one as well. The original human being was in this state. A very complex being consisting of two halfs that make up one whole. This is infinite life. You can live for eternities separate but cannot live infinite without your other half. This is why scriptures refer to bride, marriage and end time. Alot of people think it just refers to the individual body as a bride but there really is no such thing as a male bride which is why JESUS is called the bridegroom and prophecy is about mary magdalene(end time female not the one back 2000 years ago) that is the bride representing all females as the bride for this union. The mary magdalene doctrines were prophecy yet to be fulfilled , jesus didnt get married back then if he had everyone would be in infinite condtion. The eutruscan mummy scroll that was wrapped around the mummy of a woman is record of this prophecy. However, this isnt just about earth. Its also about heaven. The woman has to be human but also divine as in incarnated into the human egg because its a new heaven and a new earth not just a new earth.


Too myth-like. The soul does not continue in existence after death. When man was formed from the dust of the earth, Adonai breathed in his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. (Gen. 2:7) To become is to be. Therefore, we are living souls. Soul is the combination of body with the breath of life. Once that combination is undone with death, the soul is nonexistent.

So, Jesus' body did resurrect, didn't it? Can you use your NT to show who was an eyewitness to his resurrection? No, you can't because there was none. When Luke said in Acts 1:3 that Jesus appeared to his disciples for 40 days, it was after his passion or after his sufferings, and not after his resurrection. After his suffering is no proof that he even died, let alone that he resurrected. He could have survived the cross and left the Land of Israel. Every thing is possbile.

And now, IMHO, is the truth about Jesus marriage to Mary Magdalene:

The Wedding of Jesus

Jesus was a Rabbi and here are the proofs: Matthew 23:7, John 1:38; and John 3:2. In many other instances, he was addressed as Master, which means the same. The point is that a Rabbi in Israel just like senior Pastors among Protestants had to be a married man or about to get married. Otherwise, he would not be ordained as such.

According to Judaism, after the proper preparation whatever it was at that time, the Jewish "Theological" student would undergo the ceremonial "Mikveh" or immersion in waters and, if not married yet, to take care of that before ordination.

So, after Jesus' immersion in the Jordan River, officiated by John the Baptist, Jesus was seen in the next two days recruiting his disciples and leaving for Galilee. (John 1:29,35,43) And on the third day after his "Mikveh," The family and friends were celebrating his wedding in Cana with Mary Magdalene.

According to a certain custom, usually the mother of the bride would be in charge of the celebrations, but probably, Mary's parents had passed away, because she used to live with her sister Martha and brother Lazarus. I mean, they lived with Mary, who was the one well-to-do. Martha would pay her room-and-board as a sort of maiden servant and Lazarus... well, I think he was a loafer-boy taking advantage of his rich sister. He was probably a sick man anyway, considering that he died twice.

Okay, but back to the wedding, Jesus' mother Mary had to do the host job; and she did it quite well by giving orders around to the servants. And according to another custom, the bridegroom was in charge to provide the wine, which mind you, Jesus made it sure to be of the best quality. (John 2:10) I can assert for this custom because I was married in Israel and reminded of the custom, which I had happily to comply. The tale of the miracle was interpolated much later to deviate the probing attention of those who have a mind of their own from finding out what was really going on in Cana.

After Jesus' wedding, you can check for yourselves, all Jesus' come-and-goes were from and to Bethany, the home of Mary Magdalene. It must have been a very spacious and beautiful home, since Mary had the means to maintain it. Mind you that Mary would also take the tab for the expenses of Jesus' group of Twelve Apostles, along with some other women of course, who would tip it in from time to time.

Whenever Jesus would return from his missionary campains throughout Israel, the address was Bethany. To his wife obviously, although most the time, Mary Magdalene would follow Jesus as his beloved disciple, but never at the level of the Twelve. The Church later interpolated John as the beloved disciple for the same reason to get the mind of the readers away from the thought that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. But it's not helping because the evidences are just too shouting.

Do we have any hint to pick up as evidence for any romantic approach prior or after their wedding? Yes, we do. After Jesus exorcized "seven demons" from Mary, she must have fallen in love with him. (Luke 8:1-3) And the expression "seven demons" means the struggle that Jesus had to go through to rescue Mary from her not so reputable business in Magdala, which granted her a title she could never get rid of.

Then, in Bethany - where else? - when Mary was smearing Jesus' body with that expensive perfume, we all know, although we forbid ourselves to think about it, that Mary did not just throw that perfume at him from afar. No way! She did smear him all over even in terms of massage; so much so that some of the guests thought it ridiculous and criticized the act done so publicly. (Mat. 26:10-13)

Then, while everyone else would address Jesus as Rabbi, Mary would call him "Rabboni," a colloquial term used as an expression of love, especially by a Rabbi's wife. It also means Master of my sufferings, as Rachel named her son Benoni before she died from child birth. (Gen. 35:18)

Later, when Mary went to the tomb area after Jesus' crucifixion, and saw the empty tomb, she never suffered more in her life. She wanted to take Jesus' body away with her. (John 20:15) Then, she was crying without consolation. At her travail, she saw a man standing by, whom she thought to be the Gardener.

"Why are you crying?" the man asked. Jesus knew why but he wanted to enjoy the answer from his beloved's lips. Alas! She did not identify him! It was too dark. But then Jesus tried her name just the way he used to call her. "Mary..." It's hard to say it in writing, but Mary melted down and said, "Rabboni!" He was indeed the master of her sufferings. This is an expression with such a profound meaning in Hebrew or Aramaic that Mary jumped to hug him but Jesus, probably all in bandages, forbade her to cause him any more unnecessary pains. He would meet her later at more propitious circumstances. (John 20:17)

Then, after some apparitions to the disciples, Jesus said goodbye and left his company. From then on, the names of these three peoples were never mentioned again: Jesus, Mary and Joseph of Arimathea. Jesus yes, but only in connection with his teachings by the Nazarenes, a Jewish sect organized by the Apostles. Joseph had to go along because, if he had stayed, he could be crucified for having cheated on Pilate regarding Jesus who was not dead when he took him off the cross.

Today, there are three speculations about their whereabouts. The first is that they settled down incognito in Talpiot, a small town not too far from Jerusalem, where some people have claimed to have found out the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Yoseph. I went there personally but just to be told that the area could not be explored by orders of the local Meier for being under an Apartment building.

The second speculation is that they left Israel and went to live in Cashmere, India, where a Russian Archaeologist is claimed to have found the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Yosef with the shield of David.

And the third speculation is the one of the Da Vinci Code that the three went to Europe and settled down in the Southern part of France in a small village. And that Mary gave birth to a daughter, who eventually got married within the Merovingian nobility.

Whatever happened after Jesus said goodbye to his disciples, I don't endorse anything that has been speculated. My point is only to verify the truth about Jesus' marriage to Mary Magdalene. If that's true without the shadow of a doubt, we have only to be joyful that Jesus fulfilled also the commandment to get married and father children. Besides, a married man only adds to his honor for being so. Why deny Jesus the pleasure of being a man by experiencing the love of a woman?

Ben:
 
Too myth-like. The soul does not continue in existence after death. When man was formed from the dust of the earth, Adonai breathed in his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. (Gen. 2:7) To become is to be. Therefore, we are living souls. Soul is the combination of body with the breath of life. Once that combination is undone with death, the soul is nonexistent.

So, Jesus' body did resurrect, didn't it? Can you use your NT to show who was an eyewitness to his resurrection? No, you can't because there was none. When Luke said in Acts 1:3 that Jesus appeared to his disciples for 40 days, it was after his passion or after his sufferings, and not after his resurrection. After his suffering is no proof that he even died, let alone that he resurrected. He could have survived the cross and left the Land of Israel. Every thing is possbile.

And now, IMHO, is the truth about Jesus marriage to Mary Magdalene:

The Wedding of Jesus

Jesus was a Rabbi and here are the proofs: Matthew 23:7, John 1:38; and John 3:2. In many other instances, he was addressed as Master, which means the same. The point is that a Rabbi in Israel just like senior Pastors among Protestants had to be a married man or about to get married. Otherwise, he would not be ordained as such.

According to Judaism, after the proper preparation whatever it was at that time, the Jewish "Theological" student would undergo the ceremonial "Mikveh" or immersion in waters and, if not married yet, to take care of that before ordination.

So, after Jesus' immersion in the Jordan River, officiated by John the Baptist, Jesus was seen in the next two days recruiting his disciples and leaving for Galilee. (John 1:29,35,43) And on the third day after his "Mikveh," The family and friends were celebrating his wedding in Cana with Mary Magdalene.

According to a certain custom, usually the mother of the bride would be in charge of the celebrations, but probably, Mary's parents had passed away, because she used to live with her sister Martha and brother Lazarus. I mean, they lived with Mary, who was the one well-to-do. Martha would pay her room-and-board as a sort of maiden servant and Lazarus... well, I think he was a loafer-boy taking advantage of his rich sister. He was probably a sick man anyway, considering that he died twice.

Okay, but back to the wedding, Jesus' mother Mary had to do the host job; and she did it quite well by giving orders around to the servants. And according to another custom, the bridegroom was in charge to provide the wine, which mind you, Jesus made it sure to be of the best quality. (John 2:10) I can assert for this custom because I was married in Israel and reminded of the custom, which I had happily to comply. The tale of the miracle was interpolated much later to deviate the probing attention of those who have a mind of their own from finding out what was really going on in Cana.

After Jesus' wedding, you can check for yourselves, all Jesus' come-and-goes were from and to Bethany, the home of Mary Magdalene. It must have been a very spacious and beautiful home, since Mary had the means to maintain it. Mind you that Mary would also take the tab for the expenses of Jesus' group of Twelve Apostles, along with some other women of course, who would tip it in from time to time.

Whenever Jesus would return from his missionary campains throughout Israel, the address was Bethany. To his wife obviously, although most the time, Mary Magdalene would follow Jesus as his beloved disciple, but never at the level of the Twelve. The Church later interpolated John as the beloved disciple for the same reason to get the mind of the readers away from the thought that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. But it's not helping because the evidences are just too shouting.

Do we have any hint to pick up as evidence for any romantic approach prior or after their wedding? Yes, we do. After Jesus exorcized "seven demons" from Mary, she must have fallen in love with him. (Luke 8:1-3) And the expression "seven demons" means the struggle that Jesus had to go through to rescue Mary from her not so reputable business in Magdala, which granted her a title she could never get rid of.

Then, in Bethany - where else? - when Mary was smearing Jesus' body with that expensive perfume, we all know, although we forbid ourselves to think about it, that Mary did not just throw that perfume at him from afar. No way! She did smear him all over even in terms of massage; so much so that some of the guests thought it ridiculous and criticized the act done so publicly. (Mat. 26:10-13)

Then, while everyone else would address Jesus as Rabbi, Mary would call him "Rabboni," a colloquial term used as an expression of love, especially by a Rabbi's wife. It also means Master of my sufferings, as Rachel named her son Benoni before she died from child birth. (Gen. 35:18)

Later, when Mary went to the tomb area after Jesus' crucifixion, and saw the empty tomb, she never suffered more in her life. She wanted to take Jesus' body away with her. (John 20:15) Then, she was crying without consolation. At her travail, she saw a man standing by, whom she thought to be the Gardener.

"Why are you crying?" the man asked. Jesus knew why but he wanted to enjoy the answer from his beloved's lips. Alas! She did not identify him! It was too dark. But then Jesus tried her name just the way he used to call her. "Mary..." It's hard to say it in writing, but Mary melted down and said, "Rabboni!" He was indeed the master of her sufferings. This is an expression with such a profound meaning in Hebrew or Aramaic that Mary jumped to hug him but Jesus, probably all in bandages, forbade her to cause him any more unnecessary pains. He would meet her later at more propitious circumstances. (John 20:17)

Then, after some apparitions to the disciples, Jesus said goodbye and left his company. From then on, the names of these three peoples were never mentioned again: Jesus, Mary and Joseph of Arimathea. Jesus yes, but only in connection with his teachings by the Nazarenes, a Jewish sect organized by the Apostles. Joseph had to go along because, if he had stayed, he could be crucified for having cheated on Pilate regarding Jesus who was not dead when he took him off the cross.

Today, there are three speculations about their whereabouts. The first is that they settled down incognito in Talpiot, a small town not too far from Jerusalem, where some people have claimed to have found out the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Yoseph. I went there personally but just to be told that the area could not be explored by orders of the local Meier for being under an Apartment building.

The second speculation is that they left Israel and went to live in Cashmere, India, where a Russian Archaeologist is claimed to have found the graves of Yeshua, Miriam and Yosef with the shield of David.

And the third speculation is the one of the Da Vinci Code that the three went to Europe and settled down in the Southern part of France in a small village. And that Mary gave birth to a daughter, who eventually got married within the Merovingian nobility.

Whatever happened after Jesus said goodbye to his disciples, I don't endorse anything that has been speculated. My point is only to verify the truth about Jesus' marriage to Mary Magdalene. If that's true without the shadow of a doubt, we have only to be joyful that Jesus fulfilled also the commandment to get married and father children. Besides, a married man only adds to his honor for being so. Why deny Jesus the pleasure of being a man by experiencing the love of a woman?

Ben:

Nobody , expecially me is denying the pleasure of being a man or a woman. End time prophecy is clearly about marriage. Not the marriage just of the spirit to the body of one but of two opposites. Mary magdalene doctrines are prophecies and the eutruscan mummy which is female that had a scroll wrapped around it is proof of this prophecy. Sacred sex is included in infinite life but each has only one opposite for infinite life. Sex caused the fall to begin with, adultry, which caused a split of the oneness of the two. When in end time fulfillment two who are infinite opposites are brought together and its the spirit stuff it will be unseparable. There are smallest unbreakable unchangable elements which are spirit elements where two are one. That place is the place of union , the place of marriage a golden dove. Two who are not infinite opposites can produce life as you can see by people having children but need ones true opposite to have infinite and eternal life. Sex will always be included but when its with ones own true opposite it will sustain the oneness of the two , never separate and is always an act of love. This is stated in hindu texts as well as ancient chinese texts and in the bible in song of solomon.
 
Ben Masada said:
Jesus was a Rabbi and here are the proofs: Matthew 23:7, John 1:38; and John 3:2. In many other instances, he was addressed as Master, which means the same. The point is that a Rabbi in Israel just like senior Pastors among Protestants had to be a married man or about to get married. Otherwise, he would not be ordained as such.
Though your argument is on some shaky ground if you consider that Jesus had some unusual attitudes toward rabbi's. For instance he told his disciples not to call anyone 'Rabbi'. Additionally he allowed himself to be immersed by John B., an unmarried holy man. How do I know he was unmarried? Because he lived in the desert on wild food. He wouldn't have been allowed to do that if he were married and if married would have had to divorce. Plus at his baptism he imitated the imagery of Elijah and Elisha with himself as Elisha. Did Elisha or Elijah ever marry?

According to a certain custom, usually the mother of the bride would be in charge of the celebrations, but probably, Mary's parents had passed away, because she used to live with her sister Martha and brother Lazarus. I mean, they lived with Mary, who was the one well-to-do. Martha would pay her room-and-board as a sort of maiden servant and Lazarus...
This part of your argument is stronger, but how do we know how far back this aspect of your marriage customs go? 'Usually the mother of the bride...' does not a sound argument make.

Do we have any hint to pick up as evidence for any romantic approach prior or after their wedding? Yes, we do. After Jesus exorcized "seven demons" from Mary, she must have fallen in love with him. (Luke 8:1-3) And the expression "seven demons" means the struggle that Jesus had to go through to rescue Mary from her not so reputable business in Magdala, which granted her a title she could never get rid of.
On the one hand Jesus could have had a ministry with absolutely no women involved, but that would not make a lot of sense. So I suppose he either has to have no women present or he must appear to be involved with them. I don't understand how the customs were. How is it that Mary's mere presence and willingness to donate implies a marriage?

Then, in Bethany - where else? - when Mary was smearing Jesus' body with that expensive perfume, we all know, although we forbid ourselves to think about it, that Mary did not just throw that perfume at him from afar. No way! She did smear him all over even in terms of massage; so much so that some of the guests thought it ridiculous and criticized the act done so publicly. (Mat. 26:10-13)
It doesn't say she smeared his whole body but that she poured it over his head. Where did you come up with that?
 
Nobody , expecially me is denying the pleasure of being a man or a woman. End time prophecy is clearly about marriage. Not the marriage just of the spirit to the body of one but of two opposites. Mary magdalene doctrines are prophecies and the eutruscan mummy which is female that had a scroll wrapped around it is proof of this prophecy. Sacred sex is included in infinite life but each has only one opposite for infinite life. Sex caused the fall to begin with, adultry, which caused a split of the oneness of the two. When in end time fulfillment two who are infinite opposites are brought together and its the spirit stuff it will be unseparable. There are smallest unbreakable unchangable elements which are spirit elements where two are one. That place is the place of union , the place of marriage a golden dove. Two who are not infinite opposites can produce life as you can see by people having children but need ones true opposite to have infinite and eternal life. Sex will always be included but when its with ones own true opposite it will sustain the oneness of the two , never separate and is always an act of love. This is stated in hindu texts as well as ancient chinese texts and in the bible in song of solomon.

Each opposite will have a number where the unbreakable union is that will be exact like a mirror image. So in a way its two golden doves that fly together in union to unite for forever.

See beauty in a snowflake, Infinity in an hourglass, touch my heart my love and time will never pass. Through the golden sands of time we grow closer ever still, until we meet again
my love

then the emptyiness we will fill.
One who is Like You..
 
Nobody , expecially me is denying the pleasure of being a man or a woman. End time prophecy is clearly about marriage. Not the marriage just of the spirit to the body of one but of two opposites. Mary magdalene doctrines are prophecies and the eutruscan mummy which is female that had a scroll wrapped around it is proof of this prophecy. Sacred sex is included in infinite life but each has only one opposite for infinite life. Sex caused the fall to begin with, adultry, which caused a split of the oneness of the two. When in end time fulfillment two who are infinite opposites are brought together and its the spirit stuff it will be unseparable. There are smallest unbreakable unchangable elements which are spirit elements where two are one. That place is the place of union , the place of marriage a golden dove. Two who are not infinite opposites can produce life as you can see by people having children but need ones true opposite to have infinite and eternal life. Sex will always be included but when its with ones own true opposite it will sustain the oneness of the two , never separate and is always an act of love. This is stated in hindu texts as well as ancient chinese texts and in the bible in song of solomon.


Sex did not cause the fall, if you are talking about life after eating from the tree of knowledge. Much prior to that, the command had been given to grow and multiply. (Gen. 1:28) A couple does not grow and multiply without sex. There was indeed a fall, but of the stage of ingorance. I would call it rather an ascension to the highest level of understanding; of knowledge. In the Garden of Eden they were living by faith. But where faith dwells, knowledge does not intrude. When they decided to go for the real stuff, faith died and knowledge made man one with God. (Gen. 3:22) Now, man was ready to face the world and develop his intellect.
Ben
 
Though your argument is on some shaky ground if you consider that Jesus had some unusual attitudes toward rabbi's. For instance he told his disciples not to call anyone 'Rabbi'.

Nevertheless, Nicodemus, a learnt Pharisee, addressed Jesus as a Rabbi and Jesus said nothing against it. (John 3:1,2) Jesus rather spoke to him as a Rabbi to another. Although Jesus was a junior Rabbi and Nicodemus a senior one.

Additionally he allowed himself to be immersed by John B., an unmarried holy man. How do I know he was unmarried? Because he lived in the desert on wild food.

Wrong! John was equally an abulatory Essene Rabbi. According to Josephus, there was a branch of the Essenes that would not marry. But they would be monk-like religious hermits. They would never leave their monastery and go out in public. The other branches of Essenes of the kind of John and Jesus would flock around them a group of 12 diciples to teach them Torah and spread their spiritual revival of Judaism. John had his 12 disciples and Jesus had his. Even some of John's disciples were suggested to follow Jesus by John himself who was having a premonition about his arrest and eventual emminent death. (John 1:35-37)

He wouldn't have been allowed to do that if he were married and if married would have had to divorce. Plus at his baptism he imitated the imagery of Elijah and Elisha with himself as Elisha. Did Elisha or Elijah ever marry?

Wrong again. John was baptizing in the Jordan as the specialty he had chosen to effect his ministry. It is common today to see students to the Rabbinate promoting the use of the tephillin in many corners of a city, especially where there is Habbad Community Center. It does not mean that John was not married. One would not do that during the night, the time that he would be with his wife.

This part of your argument is stronger, but how do we know how far back this aspect of your marriage customs go? 'Usually the mother of the bride...' does not a sound argument make.

I got married here in Israel to a Yemanite lady, according to old customs. Just as I reported in the thread. Therefore, self experience.

On the one hand Jesus could have had a ministry with absolutely no women involved, but that would not make a lot of sense. So I suppose he either has to have no women present or he must appear to be involved with them. I don't understand how the customs were. How is it that Mary's mere presence and willingness to donate implies a marriage?

If you do not understand, don't to try to know better than those who do, and have gone through the experience.

It doesn't say she smeared his whole body but that she poured it over his head. Where did you come up with that?

I come with that from logical deduction that when she reached down to Jesus' feet, she smeared them in terms of massage while drying them with her own hair.

Ben
 
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