Angels and Humans: Whats the differences

Etu Malku said:
What do you consider 'sacred sex'?
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What knowledge of Tantra do you have?

It is practiced in some Pagan mystery schools as well, it is an energetic sex which culminates in enlightenment when orgasm is achieved.

He has presented this roughly in the last sentence of his statement, although still I am puzzled as to why he has linked me with such terrible music.
 
Strange that donnann has said the devil separates, though.

I wonder if he is aware it is actually the mind?
 
Lunitik said:
What knowledge of Tantra do you have?

It is practiced in some Pagan mystery schools as well, it is an energetic sex which culminates in enlightenment when orgasm is achieved.

He has presented this roughly in the last sentence of his statement, although still I am puzzled as to why he has linked me with such terrible music.
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Was I talking to you?
 
Etu Malku said:
What do you consider 'sacred sex'?
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Even when two are not actual opposites it still produces life however true sacred sex really only is with two who are opposites at the source no matter how different the bodies are. This state of existance would be only in the resurrected bodies. To me that is really what sacred sex is. Life is precious but outside the two who really are opposites it produces life but mortal life and halves of the whole so its precious but not totally and completely sacred.
 
Lunitik said:
Strange that donnann has said the devil separates, though.

I wonder if he is aware it is actually the mind?
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I am a she but no its not just the mind. Emotions get in the way sometimes as well. Someone can think they love someone and they may but that person may not be their one true opposite because they do not meet all the what I call points of light for that union. There is a number , a unbreakable unchangable number I call the platinum lotus jewel and thats each persons one true opposite. Emotions, thinking you do love someone who may not be your actual true opposite can get in the way of that union.
 
Lunitik said:
Strange that donnann has said the devil separates, though.

I wonder if he is aware it is actually the mind?
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Oh I forgot to address the devil aspect of things. I dont believe the devil to be some evil entity out to keep people apart. I believe the only purpose it serves is to separate those things not of god so that god can bring correct things together.
 
donnann said:
Oh I forgot to address the devil aspect of things. I dont believe the devil to be some evil entity out to keep people apart. I believe the only purpose it serves is to separate those things not of god so that god can bring correct things together.
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Sorry for the multiple post. Just so you know I believe the whole bible to be holy and that its a divine language and that the whole book is geared towards union and nothing in it is meant to harm as in my reasoning for the devil stuff in it. The book is called the HOLY bible cause everything in it should be reasoned to serve a holy purpose.
 
donnann said:
I am a she but no its not just the mind.
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Incorrect, without concepts of the mind, nothing can be divided.

donnann said:
Emotions get in the way sometimes as well.
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Emotions only intervene when mind identifies with the emotion. This is actually true also for the mind, it cannot exist without our identification, but that perhaps goes too deep for the current line.
 
I can confirm angels do have wings, and have much more light than humans, i.e, they are made of light whereas humans are made of mud/clay and then water [Adam made of clay, and his decendants made of "a quintessence of fluid" (32:7-8)]

there is no such thing as a 'fallen angel', for angels can only obey God as they have no free-will, i.e, no ability to commit evil

angels carry out the order of God and carry out many functions which makes the universe function, and angels remain 24/7 engaged in the worship of God

now some may be wondering, if there is no such thing as a 'fallen angel', who the hell is the devil!

well that one's no mystery, for the devil are the mischevious 'ghosts' that many people have had experiences of; demons, poltergiest, evil spirits, call it what you like, but thats who the devil kind is from; the Jinn!

the devils are made of fire, and there are many good jinns too, those who use their free-will to obey God, but due to their fiery nature, most have turned evil
 
Abdullah said:
I can confirm angels do have wings, and have much more light than humans, i.e, they are made of light whereas humans are made of mud/clay and then water [Adam made of clay, and his decendants made of "a quintessence of fluid" (32:7-8)]

there is no such thing as a 'fallen angel', for angels can only obey God as they have no free-will, i.e, no ability to commit evil

angels carry out the order of God and carry out many functions which makes the universe function, and angels remain 24/7 engaged in the worship of God

now some may be wondering, if there is no such thing as a 'fallen angel', who the hell is the devil!

well that one's no mystery, for the devil are the mischevious 'ghosts' that many people have had experiences of; demons, poltergiest, evil spirits, call it what you like, but thats who the devil kind is from; the Jinn!

the devils are made of fire, and there are many good jinns too, those who use their free-will to obey God, but due to their fiery nature, most have turned evil
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Sorry but all living beings with intelligence have free will. Fallen angels are in the same condition as human beings. Their bodies are not one with their prefallen spirit and soul and in the need of the same kind of salvation. End time prophecy isnt just about human beings salvation. The new heaven is the salvation of the fallen angels, new earth of human beings.
 
donnann said:
Sorry but all living beings with intelligence have free will. Fallen angels are in the same condition as human beings. Their bodies are not one with their prefallen spirit and soul and in the need of the same kind of salvation. End time prophecy isnt just about human beings salvation. The new heaven is the salvation of the fallen angels, new earth of human beings.
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What people do not know is there really isnt any such SON named lucifer. Lucifer is the name given to venus being an angelic body and venus is a goddess not a god. Lucifel is the name of the actual archangel. The prophecies concerning angels salvation is about a female body that is the bride, the new angelic body and union of each archangel and angel with his own one true opposite. There are plates depicting Lucifel and Lucifer but they really represent him protecting the female and union with it. This is the new heaven stuff. When a male claims to be lucifer its a big lie. Its a term for the female angelic body not the male. The bible says oh how you have fallen, its like a trick Luci-fel revealing the true name of the archangel. Hes not the devil and hes really one of the elohim. So salvation comes through a woman whose body is angelic and human, new heaven and new earth stuff.
 
donnann said:
What people do not know is there really isnt any such SON named lucifer. Lucifer is the name given to venus being an angelic body and venus is a goddess not a god. Lucifel is the name of the actual archangel. The prophecies concerning angels salvation is about a female body that is the bride, the new angelic body and union of each archangel and angel with his own one true opposite. There are plates depicting Lucifel and Lucifer but they really represent him protecting the female and union with it. This is the new heaven stuff. When a male claims to be lucifer its a big lie. Its a term for the female angelic body not the male. The bible says oh how you have fallen, its like a trick Luci-fel revealing the true name of the archangel. Hes not the devil and hes really one of the elohim. So salvation comes through a woman whose body is angelic and human, new heaven and new earth stuff.
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What plates? How many times must I ask you this? Show me ANYTHING that states the name Lucifel and its connection to Lucifer?

Hesperus is the personification of the "evening star", the planet Venus in the evening. In Greek mythology, Hesperus, the Evening Star is the son of the dawn goddess Eos and brother of Phosphorus, (Lucifer "light-bearer"), the Morning Star.
 
donnann said:
Sorry but all living beings with intelligence have free will. Fallen angels are in the same condition as human beings. Their bodies are not one with their prefallen spirit and soul and in the need of the same kind of salvation. End time prophecy isnt just about human beings salvation. The new heaven is the salvation of the fallen angels, new earth of human beings.
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Think about the following situation Donnan:

if angels carry out duties in the functioning and smooth running of this universe, even down to the point where there are guardian angels with babies, then imagine if they did have free-will, and many angels decided to disobey God, what chaos there would be in the universe and lives of people; babies would fall in harm, there would be chaos in the weather system and we may not see such synchrocity in the trajectory of the planets

thus, the smooth running of the universe suggests that angels can only obey God

and above all, this is what God has clarified in the 'undistorted' last revelation

Peace!

ps; storms and stuff, or planets colliding in far off space, are merely Gods punishments and signs of his power and Mercy, thus this is not a sign of angels disobeying God
 
Abdullah said:
Think about the following situation Donnan:

if angels carry out duties in the functioning and smooth running of this universe, even down to the point where there are guardian angels with babies, then imagine if they did have free-will, and many angels decided to disobey God, what chaos there would be in the universe and lives of people; babies would fall in harm, there would be chaos in the weather system and we may not see such synchrocity in the trajectory of the planets

thus, the smooth running of the universe suggests that angels can only obey God

and above all, this is what God has clarified in the 'undistorted' last revelation

Peace!

ps; storms and stuff, or planets colliding in far off space, are merely Gods punishments and signs of his power and Mercy, thus this is not a sign of angels disobeying God
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They did rebel some time back way before human beings were created, hence you have fallen angels. Adam and eve disobeyed , not much of a difference I would say.
 
Abdullah said:
Think about the following situation Donnan:

if angels carry out duties in the functioning and smooth running of this universe, even down to the point where there are guardian angels with babies, then imagine if they did have free-will, and many angels decided to disobey God, what chaos there would be in the universe and lives of people; babies would fall in harm, there would be chaos in the weather system and we may not see such synchrocity in the trajectory of the planets

thus, the smooth running of the universe suggests that angels can only obey God

and above all, this is what God has clarified in the 'undistorted' last revelation

Peace!

ps; storms and stuff, or planets colliding in far off space, are merely Gods punishments and signs of his power and Mercy, thus this is not a sign of angels disobeying God
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Adam and eve were created or as I say birthed. Angelic beings were birthed. The first created...female was created on the first day when time began in heaven which is why the goddess or archeias name is dawnya meaning the light. Born right at the moment between day and night. This is why its venus but is IT. The combination of the morning and evening star , the oneness of it.
 
donnann said:
Adam and eve were created or as I say birthed. Angelic beings were birthed. The first created...female was created on the first day when time began in heaven which is why the goddess or archeias name is dawnya meaning the light. Born right at the moment between day and night. This is why its venus but is IT. The combination of the morning and evening star , the oneness of it.
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The earthly universe was created in the image of the heavenly universe. Angelic beings do have free will just like human beings do and just like human beings sometimes that free will can be impeded upon, hopefully in the right way though. I think god stepping in is his will helping the angel helping itself.
 
Etu Malku said:
way to avoid my questions dude . . . lol
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That would be dudette lol. All intelligent beings have free will. Thats the nature and function of it. GOD doesnt even have the power to take that away although he can impart his will into someone by way of their own good aspects of themselves. Fallen angels like human beings have prophecies as well for salvation. The luciferian doctrines they have are not what people think they are but are prophecies of a woman whose body is angelic but incarnated from the heavenly universe (is human too but thats also human prophecy) for the purpose of marriage and salvation of fallen angels. In these prophecies lucifer isnt a male its female. Lucifel is male.
 
donnann said:
That would be dudette lol. All intelligent beings have free will. Thats the nature and function of it. GOD doesnt even have the power to take that away although he can impart his will into someone by way of their own good aspects of themselves. Fallen angels like human beings have prophecies as well for salvation. The luciferian doctrines they have are not what people think they are but are prophecies of a woman whose body is angelic but incarnated from the heavenly universe (is human too but thats also human prophecy) for the purpose of marriage and salvation of fallen angels. In these prophecies lucifer isnt a male its female. Lucifel is male.
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Lucifer means light bringer. Its said to be venus and venus is NOT a male. The light is love light.
 
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