Heavenly Armies function and purpose

[Etu Malku]

Its not unsubstatiated. Documentation of miracles involving the body and comparision to which prohecy it fulfills proves it.

Stupid texts from old prove nothing, how could they? Do you believe anything you are told, everything you read?

 

[Lunitik]

Incarnated beings descend into the human egg and are sealed. They condense and descend. The female in prophecy descended at the moment of the union of sperm and egg. The eutruscan mummy and liber linteus is this prophecy and is the , not only human mary magdalene prophecies but also the fallen angels luciferian prophecy because the body is human and angelic. Some call this a nephalim.

YOU are an incarnation, if you want to say like this. In reality there is no separation at all between you and God, but because it seems so this word is used.

Nephilim refers to the animal nature in man, it refers to the common state of human beings trapped in samsara - the wheel of life. This is why I say humans are the lower self or fallen angels, or in other words the Lower Self is meant.

Angel, incarnation, Buddha, avatar, all these things mean one who has freed himself from samsara, who has become a celestial or enlightened being. Now, they reside in heaven, they have gone into nirvana, or experience moksha - all these simply mean to realize the Higher Self.

To say directly: man has died that god can be, or fallacy has been dropped and truth realized. The goal of all religions has been realized.

 

[Snoopy]

It says he ascended bodily after his death.

What is 'It'? Citation please.

 

[Lunitik]

Its not unsubstatiated. Documentation of miracles involving the body and comparision to which prohecy it fulfills proves it.

Buddha does not believe in miracles, for a miracle is simply something you don't understand.

Buddha simply has a deeper understanding of reality, and thus can manipulate existence in certain ways you do not understand. These things are possible for all people if you wish to attain them, many mystery schools and occult groups study them.

 

[Etu Malku]

YOU are an incarnation, if you want to say like this. In reality there is no separation at all between you and God, but because it seems so this word is used.

Nephilim refers to the animal nature in man, it refers to the common state of human beings trapped in samsara - the wheel of life. This is why I say humans are the lower self or fallen angels, or in other words the Lower Self is meant.

Angel, incarnation, Buddha, avatar, all these things mean one who has freed himself from samsara, who has become a celestial or enlightened being. Now, they reside in heaven, they have gone into nirvana, or experience moksha - all these simply mean to realize the Higher Self.

To say directly: man has died that god can be, or fallacy has been dropped and truth realized. The goal of all religions has been realized.

Lunitik, you are then explaining metaphysical concepts through Vedic philosophies and myths? This I can understand, when I need to explain things in simple mundane terms I also resort to Lucifer personified, it makes it easier for them to comprehend.

 

[donnann]

YOU are an incarnation, if you want to say like this. In reality there is no separation at all between you and God, but because it seems so this word is used.

Nephilim refers to the animal nature in man, it refers to the common state of human beings trapped in samsara - the wheel of life. This is why I say humans are the lower self or fallen angels, or in other words the Lower Self is meant.

Angel, incarnation, Buddha, avatar, all these things mean one who has freed himself from samsara, who has become a celestial or enlightened being. Now, they reside in heaven, they have gone into nirvana, or experience moksha - all these simply mean to realize the Higher Self.

To say directly: man has died that god can be, or fallacy has been dropped and truth realized. The goal of all religions has been realized.

I like to make the distinction because there are clear differences between angels and humans. There are realms within this universe and yourselves that are the soul and spirit sealed away, but the heavenly universe is literally a universe outside this one much much bigger and consists of more light. This planet is but a grain of sand compared to its heavenly counterpart in size.

 

[Lunitik]

Heaven and hell are not somewhere else, both are here now, they are how you perceive the world. If you are very anxious and suffer a lot in life with things like worry, this is hell, it will burn your soul. This very moment there is also heaven if you look rightly, unimaginable bliss and enjoyment are realizable herenow.

Strange the imaginings of men, such a simply thing used to abuse and cause more suffering. Priests promise you heaven tomorrow so they can give you hell today, always postponing, always after life for they want to control you during it.

Never believe what men say, instead see for yourself. Why will you need another to contact your own true self? It is foolish.

 

[donnann]

Heaven and hell are not somewhere else, both are here now, they are how you perceive the world. If you are very anxious and suffer a lot in life with things like worry, this is hell, it will burn your soul. This very moment there is also heaven if you look rightly, unimaginable bliss and enjoyment are realizable herenow.

Strange the imaginings of men, such a simply thing used to abuse and cause more suffering. Priests promise you heaven tomorrow so they can give you hell today, always postponing, always after life for they want to control you during it.

Never believe what men say, instead see for yourself. Why will you need another to contact your own true self? It is foolish.

To me hell is only good processes that lead to union, a place of healing not the usual concept of fire and brimstone. However hell does exist and yes its here but its also inside you and outside you. As above so below. GOD and Christ sit there for the purpose of healing and progression to lead to resurrection and ascension.

 

[Lunitik]

Lunitik, you are then explaining metaphysical concepts through Vedic philosophies and myths? This I can understand, when I need to explain things in simple mundane terms I also resort to Lucifer personified, it makes it easier for them to comprehend.

I do not try to restrict myself to only one teller of truth, but your statement is valid. It is impossible to convey truth, whatsoever is said simply falls short every time. I owe it to all to at least try to convey though, to at least try to show them the way home.

It is frustrating, always what is said if filtered through their understanding... I try not to cater to that though. This makes it seem like I am hitting too hard sometimes, but it is necessary to make it clear.

 

[Lunitik]

To me hell is only good processes that lead to union, a place of healing not the usual concept of fire and brimstone. However hell does exist and yes its here but its also inside you and outside you. As above so below. GOD and Christ sit there for the purpose of healing and progression to lead to resurrection and ascension.

Inside and outside is another duality, both are false.
Again, this is the case with above and below.
There is no there, there is only here.
Find that place, the one observing everything.
Drop all your ideas, all your beliefs and concepts.
When your being is utterly pure, what remains?

There is nothing else to do but remove what is false, then all that remains is truth. This is the truth Jesus has found, that Buddha has found, that all the great ones have found. Mind cannot find it though, for mind exists in it. Who is the one that gives mind its power? Find that one and you have found all.

 

[donnann]

Inside and outside is another duality, both are false.
Again, this is the case with above and below.
There is no there, there is only here.
Find that place, the one observing everything.
Drop all your ideas, all your beliefs and concepts.
When your being is utterly pure, what remains?

There is nothing else to do but remove what is false, then all that remains is truth. This is the truth Jesus has found, that Buddha has found, that all the great ones have found. Mind cannot find it though, for mind exists in it. Who is the one that gives mind its power? Find that one and you have found all.

Union of it is sealing stuff. Union of black light and white light, then union of two golden lights makes platinum. The golden lotus has a platinum jewel in it but the locks are platinum and can only be opened by the one who is the infinite oppsite. Its kinda like sparkles.

 

[Lunitik]

I like to make the distinction because there are clear differences between angels and humans. There are realms within this universe and yourselves that are the soul and spirit sealed away, but the heavenly universe is literally a universe outside this one much much bigger and consists of more light. This planet is but a grain of sand compared to its heavenly counterpart in size.

The distinction only keeps you away from truth, it serves no purpose at all.

Soul and spirit are not two, they are both aspects of energy. Soul means the mind, spirit means the breath, which is true? Soul insists it is distinct, this distinction is called the ego. The Bible says to give up your personal will, the soul is intended, you must return it to God. Holy Spirit just means the Whole Breath, but what is the nature of breath? No fire can burn without oxygen, it is because oxygen is energy. God is the totality of all energy...

In the East, many have said they ARE the breath - prana or ch'i mean this too. Many exercises are about looking more deeply into this, they say it is the life force but without food or drink there can also be no life - you cannot light a fire merely on air, you need wood or coal or something as well.

At the very peak of energy, God is realized. This is why many gurus go on saying to be absolutely total in everything you do, eventually you will burn so hotly that your ego will melt... then there is God.

 

[Lunitik]

Union of it is sealing stuff. Union of black light and white light, then union of two golden lights makes platinum. The golden lotus has a platinum jewel in it but the locks are platinum and can only be opened by the one who is the infinite oppsite. Its kinda like sparkles.

This is all just peripheral, phenomenal... irrelevant.

Find that place of union, although this is not true, for union implies two merging. Find oneness, but without any two, that absolute aloneness free from any longing.

 

[donnann]

This is all just peripheral, phenomenal... irrelevant.

Find that place of union, although this is not true, for union implies two merging. Find oneness, but without any two, that absolute aloneness free from any longing.

Without two its nothing but aloneness. There is no such thing as oneness as an individual being free from being alone. Who would want to live that way..not me. Besides its just not how things are in reality.

 

[Lunitik]

You can also say body is like ice, soul is like water, and spirit is like steam...

They are not really different, just more or less subtlety for the same substance... that substance in all cases is an aspect of energy.

Many try to push in one direction or the other, either they say only the ice exists - materialists - or they try to realize themselves as only steam - spiritualists. In reality, all are false, all is simply the play of energy. Energy is all there is, and is this is what I call God.

 

[donnann]

You can also say body is like ice, soul is like water, and spirit is like steam...

They are not really different, just more or less subtlety for the same substance... that substance in all cases is an aspect of energy.

Many try to push in one direction or the other, either they say only the ice exists - materialists - or they try to realize themselves as only steam - spiritualists. In reality, all are false, all is simply the play of energy. Energy is all there is, and is this is what I call God.

I agree with the ice crystal thing but the steam has to engage the ice as to not melt it but to merge with it making it a perfect thing .

 

[donnann]

You can also say body is like ice, soul is like water, and spirit is like steam...

They are not really different, just more or less subtlety for the same substance... that substance in all cases is an aspect of energy.

Many try to push in one direction or the other, either they say only the ice exists - materialists - or they try to realize themselves as only steam - spiritualists. In reality, all are false, all is simply the play of energy. Energy is all there is, and is this is what I call God.

A transformation of sorts , turning the ice into a crystal .

 

[Lunitik]

Without two its nothing but aloneness.

Exactly.

There is no such thing as oneness as an individual being free from being alone. Who would want to live that way..not me. Besides its just not how things are in reality.

In fact it is the case whether you like it or not.

Existence is exactly balanced because of that oneness, though. If anything comes out of balance suddenly God has an attribute, yet all this differentiation still occurs. This is the wonder of life, that all this is managed, all this differentiation has arisen from oneness, existence has arisen from nothingness.

Identification with duality causes suffering, you think these things are happening to you, you become too much involved. In enlightenment, now you realize it is just like a movie, you can just enjoy the show.

 

[Lunitik]

A transformation of sorts , turning the ice into a crystal .

The transformation is from man to God.

 

[donnann]

Exactly.



In fact it is the case whether you like it or not.

Existence is exactly balanced because of that oneness, though. If anything comes out of balance suddenly God has an attribute, yet all this differentiation still occurs. This is the wonder of life, that all this is managed, all this differentiation has arisen from oneness, existence has arisen from nothingness.

Identification with duality causes suffering, you think these things are happening to you, you become too much involved. In enlightenment, now you realize it is just like a movie, you can just enjoy the show.

True. The oneness does balance. The problem with the world is the imbalance of the male and female not only of living creatures but the elements themselves. So I completely agree.