THats the double edged sword. Its also a power. A light. Love light.
THats the double edged sword. Its also a power. A light. Love light.
The male pushes the masculine energy while the female is receptive. THen when the energy is transferred back to the male is converts over to being masculine but a gentle energy. This is how is works. Just like when a child is forming in the womb , even at conception if its male the energy is converted to that side and the male body forms, if female the energy is converted to the female side and that body forms. There are spirit elements , unbreakable and unchangable and that includes gender. This is why a child is either male or female.Besides my male counterpart being the masculine can conquer me anytime
The female energy can also be pushed, dont get me wrong but its still the feminine.
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The male and female energies must annihilate one another, only then is there a transcendence. In physical form, it is impossible, there is always a barrier there which is impossible to overcome. I urge you to go deeply into this that you can see clearly, but remember my words: the other can never fulfill you.
Try every other path you consider in any way valid, go totally into it, only then can you see it has betrayed your trust. Eventually, when everything else has been exhausted, ask yourself what you have really been seeking.
The fulfillment of that is only within you.
Do not take my word for it though, simply remember what I have said. Make it your last pursuit, your last resort, for it is the completion of of all quests.
What I say will destroy all your desires, all your need to pursue, for it is the arrival.
You will slap yourself, because you will realize you were already there.
You were always that which you sought.
First you must see it is nothing else, though.
That is fine.
Try every other path you consider in any way valid, go totally into it, only then can you see it has betrayed your trust. Eventually, when everything else has been exhausted, ask yourself what you have really been seeking.
The fulfillment of that is only within you.
Do not take my word for it though, simply remember what I have said. Make it your last pursuit, your last resort, for it is the completion of of all quests.
What I say will destroy all your desires, all your need to pursue, for it is the arrival.
You will slap yourself, because you will realize you were already there.
You were always that which you sought.
First you must see it is nothing else, though.
That is fine.
Bhaktajan II
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Originally Posted by donnann
Males have a gentle side but its still masculine. The female is really the only feminine.
Very well put.
Inre: the energies interplay, have you become familiar with the insights of Caroline Myss's "Anatomy of the Spirit" & Energy Anatomy [aka "The Energetics of Healing"] & "My people don't Heal"?
She is a unique teacher of how human Energy & Will bounce-off eachother.
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The male and female energies are as different poles of the battery, and as with any circuit, both are needed to direct energy, yet still the energy itself is neutral. Life is filled with these opposites, but always it is the combination which is creative.
The opposites function for the whole, but it is foolish to identify with any half, you have simply not seen that the other is within you too.
When you transcend the opposites, you realize you were always the whole... it is identification alone which has divided you, caused you to perceive yourself as something limited. You are pure energy running through this vehicle you call your body, it is that energy which has fueled your mind and its beliefs and conceptions. You must find their source, the observer that has empowered all your experiences.
Strange that the one who condemns sex and physical pleasure can still agree with the one who considers themselves half and requiring sex to be whole on the grounds both are limited.
It is simply false, your only limitation is self imposed.
Limitation itself is maya, it is only the whole which is liberated, utterly free.
See that you are that!
You cannot transcend yourself. You are either male or female and only linking up with your own opposite can you see the oneness. The fallen angels thought they could attain a higher existance higher than gender and they fell. Man will not reach that either because its simply unattainable. It is all about gender. The nature and function of a complete being consists of two consciousnesses one male and one female that is also one as well as three. Being that as an individual is a mental illness not attainment of a higher state of being. A split personality.
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Oh if only you mad sense were false, what a wonderful world it would be.
If you allude to me as a representative of the conjunction of the nomenclatures, brahma-arcarya-viryam in conjunction with the injunctions to protect from harm and promote the welfare of mother earth incarnate, the cow . . . then you are correct, for those traits, yes indeed, I am most admirable.
Wellwishes from the only Hare Krishna Devotee that you know,
Bhaktajan
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This is ego.
Is being admirable in others eyes more important than truth?
Find out who has watched the ego say this.
Here is your identification, that which has given a measure to you for what is admirable.
Please see, Krishna has let go utterly of himself, this is why he can say he is God. He was born a man like any other - no matter the myths around it. He has come to know the void, and recognized it as himself, this is his significance.
You are exactly as Krishna, just with a little difference: you haven't realized the void yet, you do not know your true self, you still identify with the play, still stuck in maya.
Allow Krishna to pull you out, do not make him the reason you are more stuck within it.
It means stop identifying your ego with an egoless man.
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All that is truly necessary is to stop fueling the ego, that is all spiritual practice boils down to in its various forms. As the body, the ego cannot survive long without nourishment, and it is its death which reveals truth.
You are that truth, but you are caught in a lie.
Strange the stupidities man creates around himself just to avoid truth. Krishna has not cared at all what others have thought about him, but you care utterly about the crowd, you are not yet ready to stand apart from it, you still want to stand above it. This is desire...
This is exactly the nature of all suffering, please see.
What does it matter what is accomplished in this life, how respectable you are in this life? No matter what you accomplish, it will end, you will leave exactly as you entered. Death skips no one, yet you do not seem to realize it completely, you are too distracted with irrelevant things.
There is only one thing which can be taken with you: self-knowledge.
Live each day as your last, and you will not be sorry. Live totally, and you are sure to find yourself, get lost in the crowd and you will certainly lose your Self.
Find out who you are.
You are that truth, but you are caught in a lie.
Strange the stupidities man creates around himself just to avoid truth. Krishna has not cared at all what others have thought about him, but you care utterly about the crowd, you are not yet ready to stand apart from it, you still want to stand above it. This is desire...
This is exactly the nature of all suffering, please see.
What does it matter what is accomplished in this life, how respectable you are in this life? No matter what you accomplish, it will end, you will leave exactly as you entered. Death skips no one, yet you do not seem to realize it completely, you are too distracted with irrelevant things.
There is only one thing which can be taken with you: self-knowledge.
Live each day as your last, and you will not be sorry. Live totally, and you are sure to find yourself, get lost in the crowd and you will certainly lose your Self.
Find out who you are.
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Please understand, I do not mean renounce the world... all that needs renouncing is the ego, going to the Himalayas will not help with that, because you will identify with your austerity there. You will not realize it is simply because there is no opportunity for something else...
Be in the world utterly, just not of it. Do not become entangled and attached to the things of the world, then you discover the miracle: all you were seeking you already had, you were just looking for it in the wrong place, in the wrong way. Whatsoever you possess will possess you, you become enslaved by it all. Utilize all that you wish, there is no problem, gradually simply a change from "my" to "this" will be quite a catalyst for truth. Dissociation with things will waste less of your energy...
At the peak of energy, there is enough to go beyond, to transcend humanity itself. Now you too are worthy of proclaiming "ahem brahmismi" - I am God.
You seem to enjoy finite mortality, why is it so?
Be in the world utterly, just not of it. Do not become entangled and attached to the things of the world, then you discover the miracle: all you were seeking you already had, you were just looking for it in the wrong place, in the wrong way. Whatsoever you possess will possess you, you become enslaved by it all. Utilize all that you wish, there is no problem, gradually simply a change from "my" to "this" will be quite a catalyst for truth. Dissociation with things will waste less of your energy...
At the peak of energy, there is enough to go beyond, to transcend humanity itself. Now you too are worthy of proclaiming "ahem brahmismi" - I am God.
You seem to enjoy finite mortality, why is it so?
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I have already told you why it is so, although you disagreed: it is because godliness is unknown to you, you are used to your limited existence.
You only believe yourself limited through identification, you are the whole.
It is plain the mind has divided all things in the world, and this is necessary to a point, for it creates a contrast which makes life something interesting. What is not so obvious is that mind has also divided you from the world, you are another object the mind has defined at this time. Every identification has limited you a little more, first you were a child and you had no mind even of gender. Now you become aware of genitalia and you say "I am a boy", now you create separation because you realize some are not like you. Same comes from race, you see not all match your skin, you become a little smaller. Taste in music for some people, again things become smaller. It goes on like this, mind makes you smaller and smaller and you have simply allowed it - it seemed perfectly right.
This is what must be undone, you must find the one that has made all these thoughts the case, and you can do it because it is your own doing. This definition which has caused your limitation I call the ego, it must be thrown away. Only once it has been defeated utterly will you realize what has been happening - you will laugh, you will find the whole thing so foolish.
You only believe yourself limited through identification, you are the whole.
It is plain the mind has divided all things in the world, and this is necessary to a point, for it creates a contrast which makes life something interesting. What is not so obvious is that mind has also divided you from the world, you are another object the mind has defined at this time. Every identification has limited you a little more, first you were a child and you had no mind even of gender. Now you become aware of genitalia and you say "I am a boy", now you create separation because you realize some are not like you. Same comes from race, you see not all match your skin, you become a little smaller. Taste in music for some people, again things become smaller. It goes on like this, mind makes you smaller and smaller and you have simply allowed it - it seemed perfectly right.
This is what must be undone, you must find the one that has made all these thoughts the case, and you can do it because it is your own doing. This definition which has caused your limitation I call the ego, it must be thrown away. Only once it has been defeated utterly will you realize what has been happening - you will laugh, you will find the whole thing so foolish.
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It all happened through learning language, yet we never consider it. Thoughts are all language, what would it be like if this process stopped defining everything, or if it never defined anything to start? Yet still I say it is necessary, for no animal is enlightened, it cannot happen because there is no possibility of growth - thoughts let us understand everything.
Think of mind as a springboard ahead of nature, we see it in all our accomplishments, but few ever accomplish the heights possible in man. We call some geniuses because they have figured things out which have benefited human life in general, but what of those few who have gone even beyond humanity?
Enlightenment is merely to understand everything, yet more than this, it is to understand why, and it is to discover the one who has posed the question.
Think of mind as a springboard ahead of nature, we see it in all our accomplishments, but few ever accomplish the heights possible in man. We call some geniuses because they have figured things out which have benefited human life in general, but what of those few who have gone even beyond humanity?
Enlightenment is merely to understand everything, yet more than this, it is to understand why, and it is to discover the one who has posed the question.
I believe animals are intelligent
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Certainly, instinct has a certain intelligence in it, very primitive compared to the human being though...
true but I believe they can reason.
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How would this come about without language to form thoughts?
They have their own language. Look at whales and dolphins.