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What role do God and other popular religious expressions play in the Vatican, the Anglican Church, and Saudi Arabia? Anyone know any good books that discusses this?
What role does God play in the Vatican, the Anglican Church, and Saudi Arabia?
radarmark
Quaker-in-the-Making
Neat question. However do you consider G!d a "popular religious expression"? What would a "popular religious expression" be?
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Right back at you. What would a popular religious expression be. I imagine that considering over half the people of the world claim to be either Christians or Muslims that the expressions associated with those religions would be popular.
Let me ask another question while we're at it. The Pope is the head of the Vatican, the Queen of England is the head of the Anglican Church, and the King of Saudi Arabia is the head of the Saudi Arabian government. So do they need to use expressions like God to be in the positions that they are in?
seattlegal
Mercuræn Buddhist
Welcome to IO, exile.
I find it rather interesting that Satan tempted Jesus on the mountain offering him "all the kingdoms of the world." Jesus didn't dispute that they weren't Satan's to offer. Jesus even said, "My kingdom is not of this world."
2 Corinthians 4:4 mentions "the god of this world." Look around--is this heaven?
Welcome to IO, exile.
I find it rather interesting that Satan tempted Jesus on the mountain offering him "all the kingdoms of the world." Jesus didn't dispute that they weren't Satan's to offer. Jesus even said, "My kingdom is not of this world."
2 Corinthians 4:4 mentions "the god of this world." Look around--is this heaven?
Looks around, nope don't look like heaven, maybe West Virginia, almost. What are you trying to say SG. The pope, the queen and the king got what they got by being friends with the underworld?
seattlegal
Mercuræn Buddhist
Nope. However, what position does that put STATE religions and churches in?
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So does anyone know of any good books that discuss the role God plays in relation to the Queen of England and the Anglican Church, the Pope and the Catholic Church, and the King of Saudi Arabia and the Saudi government? Do they need to use expressions like God to do what they do? Would they be where they were without using expressions like God?
I'm not sure I understand your questions. Don't world leaders sometime use the term G-d to support their agenda because the term connotes goodness. Thus they are implying that what they are trying to achieve is above reproach. A good example of this (depending on which way your flag flies) is when George W. Bush used the term to try to gain acceptance for his invasion of Iraq.
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No you understood my question quite well actually. Whether your interpretation of why Bush used expression is accurate is another question. Hasn't every President of the United States been a Christian of one denomination or another, and wouldn't that pretty much imply that they used the expression God for [political] gain in passing, not because God is above reproach, but because they actually believed that there was a God. In any case based on what you have said George Bush is a user. The next question is whether he's an abuser.
Hypothetical. If we knew what person or people first conceived of the expression God should other persons or people have the right to use these expression in commerce?
But would you agree that the Queen of England, the Pope, the Saudi royal family, the Israelis, and even the Attaturks, and Ayatollah's use the expression to the same extent? What I would really like to know however is whether there are any good books that discuss how these figures or the organizations they're associated with use the expression God.